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4/5 · **Joined:** Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm **Posts:** 6646

I love To Pimp a Butterfly and so far I'm loving DAMN.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Thu April 20, 2017 9:08 pm

Got it, thanks KD.

4/5 · **Joined:** Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm **Posts:** 6646

When I say it's more commercial or accessible I'm not insulting the album. I'm saying something I think is self-evident and is being proven by the incredible sales/streaming figures coming out. Obviously everybody disagrees with my commercial/accessible statement, so it apparently isn't self-evident or even necessarily true. Maybe I'm really, really wrong about it.

But whether I am or am not, I'm not saying that to denegrate DAMN. or to argue that TPAB is better than it because it's more ambitious. They're different. And so far I think they're both great. I'm just saying I think the intention behind this album is very different and that part of it is to show that he can make the mega hit record, too. Yes, he's sold well in the past and critics love him, and huge numbers of hip hop fans worship him. But this album he's outselling/streaming Drake right now. Or at least on pace to. I think the ONLY argument I've seen in the last 2-3 years against him being the King is sales. And this album looks like it's dispatching that nonsense.

I feel like he's coming with a track like LOVE. to be like "I can do a Drake song better than Drake AND I can do DNA and XXX and TPAB and drake can't do any of that. This is his "The crown's been mine and now I'm taking away anything anybody can say to the contrary."

Further, when I say that this is a good album to blast in the car or whatever I said, that doesn't mean it isn't also of artistic value. This album is clearly better than TPAB for rolling down your windows and cranking it as loud as you can. I'm thrilled to have another Kendrick album like that. That's not an insult or a limit on it's use, it's just a difference I see between the two. Maybe I'm wrong about that too. Idk.

Kaius · **Joined:** Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am **Posts:** 11136

Kenny is a sell out and new album sucks, got it.

4/5 · **Joined:** Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm **Posts:** 6646

Kaius wrote:

Kenny is a sell out and new album sucks, got it.

Finally somebody gets me!

bodysnatcher · **Posted:** Thu April 20, 2017 10:25 pm

One time I just enjoyed an album bc I liked the songs. It was a pretty cool experience.

Kevin Davis · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm **Posts:** 8513

bodysnatcher wrote:

One time I just enjoyed an album bc I liked the songs. It was a pretty cool experience.

Just the once, I hope -- sounds terribly mundane.

Fuzzcharger · **Posted:** Thu April 20, 2017 11:51 pm

bodysnatcher wrote:

One time I just enjoyed an album bc I liked the songs. It was a pretty cool experience.

Fake news! Stop the lies! Sad!

4/5 · **Joined:** Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm **Posts:** 6646

What they hear from me
Would make 'em highlight my simplest lines

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Fri April 21, 2017 2:12 pm

Just laid down, closed my eyes, and listened to the whole album with headphones last night. Holy cow this thing is incredible and perfect.

4/5 · **Joined:** Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm **Posts:** 6646

Ain't no black power when your baby killed by a coward

Kaius · **Joined:** Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am **Posts:** 11136

4/5 wrote:

Ain't no black power when your baby killed by a coward

Fuuuuuck

Kaius · **Joined:** Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am **Posts:** 11136

tragabigzanda wrote:

Just laid down, closed my eyes, and listened to the whole album with headphones last night. Holy cow this thing is incredible and perfect.

Yes

Orpheus · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 8:08 pm **Posts:** 2874

Quote:

'Cause most of y'all ain't real
Most of y'all gon' squeal
Most of y'all just envy, but jealousy get you killed
Most of y'all throw rocks and try to hide your hand
Just say his name and I promise that you'll see Candyman
Because it's all in your eyes, most of y'all tell lies
Most of y'all don't fade, most of y'all been advised
Last LP I tried to lift the black artists
But it's a difference between black artists and wack artists

Was listening to this earlier and realized the bolded lyric kinda encapsulates what I was trying to say. This is a "put motherfuckers on notice" album.

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Fri April 21, 2017 7:22 pm

That's a pretty bad verse TBH

Orpheus · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 8:08 pm **Posts:** 2874

Needs more bleached assholes

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Fri April 21, 2017 8:19 pm

True dat

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Fri April 21, 2017 11:22 pm

Starting to get a clearer thematic handle on this album. It's really great. He's beginning to approach Kanye territory in the way he uses irony, contrast, and interconnecting narratives between songs to establish and clarify his themes. Wonderful stuff.

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Fri April 21, 2017 11:57 pm

Also, I take back what I said about LUST, LOVE, and FEAR. They are essential tracks. The lyrics in FEAR are stunning.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Sat April 22, 2017 12:16 am

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Also, I take back what I said about LUST, LOVE, and FEAR. They are essential tracks. The lyrics in FEAR are stunning.

The production on LOVE is dreamy.

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