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Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:09 am
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I had to skip We Cry Together too. My two-and a half son was in the car and I couldn't in good conscience expose him to that kind of raw intensity on the way to pick up his flu meds.
I really don't see myself returning to that track except to experience the whole heft of the album again.
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Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:23 am
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I’m really enjoying this. Baby Keem kills it again. And I can honestly say I’m happy to hear some solid verses from Kodak. I don’t know hardly anything music of his but I like him. Haha.
Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:24 am
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washing machine wrote:
I had to skip We Cry Together too. My two-and a half son was in the car and I couldn't in good conscience expose him to that kind of raw intensity on the way to pick up his flu meds.
I really don't see myself returning to that track except to experience the whole heft of the album again.
This was my first thought upon hearing this song. I cannot let this play around them. The Alchemist beat makes it repeatable you me. And it’s a pretty amazing performance.
4 listens in I think it starts and ends strong but is too long in the middle. We Cry Together is crazy intense and they nail what he’s going for but I can’t listen to it. Listened twice, that’s enough. That’ll be an easy skip from here on out.
My initial impression is this will feel more like an artistic achievement than an album I repeatedly listen to.
Still haven't listened all the way through, but this is my experience with TPAB: About half the songs slay me; the other half feel like a really bold work of art that I don't necessarily want to listen to all the time.
I do wonder how this album might be digested once it's split up as a double album across four LPs. Any thoughts here?
I think the division is thematic. I still can't pretend to begin to fully digest it but it feels very meaningful after two full listens. This isn't even his longest record. So, clearly there's something else at work here.
Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 8:25 pm
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yeah the We Cry Together track is not enjoyable, but that's obviously the intention
But I'm surprised at how hip-hop centric this is, not as much live instrumentation as I expected after the (non-album) single and first few tracks. You take 4-5 specific tracks off this thing -- a couple of those being interludes -- and this is closer in production style to DAMN than I had anticipated.
It's neither as focused as DAMN, nor as sprawling as TPAB. But it's more raw and angry than both and after one listen, I'd say it's Kendrick exorcising his / his community's demons in a public setting. None of the lyrics were at all upsetting to me, because I just see them as an extension of his reality.
Need to listen more, but I suspect that a fairly truncated version of this album will be a regular A+ listen for me; but that the album as presented is probably a bit schizophrenic and unfocused for repeated spins.
Still want to experience this in context of 4 LPs.
Post subject: Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 10:00 pm
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How does it not?
To be clear, I’m not trying to be a dick. Admittedly, I don’t listen to much rap, but I like some of his past stuff.
I don’t mind tough content, but I like melody, maybe a hook. Prison Sex by Tool is a good example of a song that is a tough listen if you really think about the content, but it’s also a song that I want to hear again. These two tracks are unpleasant to my ear in every way.
I’m always happy for anyone to find music they connect with and genuinely love. This just baffles me tho. Then again, people enjoy Mars Volta as well.
It's neither as focused as DAMN, nor as sprawling as TPAB. But it's more raw and angry than both and after one listen, I'd say it's Kendrick exorcising his / his community's demons in a public setting. None of the lyrics were at all upsetting to me, because I just see them as an extension of his reality. [...] Still want to experience this in context of 4 LPs.
All of this feels right to me as of right now. But we'll see what living with it reveals. I happen to love that it's not as focused as DAMN. nor sprawling as TPAB. It's its own thing. I like the schizophrenia of the record. I think that's all part of the themes being explored.
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