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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
PostPosted: Thu July 16, 2020 9:46 pm 
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sure he was super fucked but i kinda changed that view when Mike Inez said that they werent healthy at the time. Jerry was fucked too. Layne was just..impossible. He was at the early stages of what happened to him next i guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Was this on a pod or something? I'd love to hear more about what was going on with the band during that time.


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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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i read it on two great books, Grunge is dead by Greg Prato and Everybody loves our town by Mark Yarm. Both of them have a lot on Alice and specially on those years.
They were in such a bad place on those years, 1995-1996. They remember those sessions as super cool and amicable but super dark and weird. Lots of sessions with Layne coming super late, Jerry being frustrated with how they were operating. The unplugged show and the kiss shows were great for them, and they just thought about resting for sometime. Thats why Jerry did Boggy Depot mainly.

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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Yeah Layne definitely is a big part of the album but they couldn't even really tour because of him at that point.

Did they ever truly do a big tour as a headliner with Layne?

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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah Layne definitely is a big part of the album but they couldn't even really tour because of him at that point.

Did they ever truly do a big tour as a headliner with Layne?


They opened a bunch of big places for van halen. Lolla too?


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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Yeah Layne definitely is a big part of the album but they couldn't even really tour because of him at that point.

Did they ever truly do a big tour as a headliner with Layne?


They opened a bunch of big places for van halen. Lolla too?

Right ... they opened big shows but was there ever a monster AIC tour? I don’t think there ever was.

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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Bammer wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Bammer wrote:
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Yeah Layne definitely is a big part of the album but they couldn't even really tour because of him at that point.

Did they ever truly do a big tour as a headliner with Layne?


They opened a bunch of big places for van halen. Lolla too?

Right ... they opened big shows but was there ever a monster AIC tour? I don’t think there ever was.


no, they didnt played live as much as PJ or Soundgarden did back in the day. I think their biggest shows were rock in rio and Lolla 93 were they headlined.

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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Been enjoying The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here a lot these days. I feel the mix in Spotify is way better than the previous released. I finally can her Mike Inez!
His bass in Lab Monkey is fuuucking glorious.

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Phantom Limb is wonderful. I saw it live and it was a such a great moment.

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Phantom Limb is wonderful. I saw it live and it was a such a great moment.


I thought the same thing about Acid Bubble in 09. That song ripped my head off.


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verb_to_trust wrote:
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Phantom Limb is wonderful. I saw it live and it was a such a great moment.


I thought the same thing about Acid Bubble in 09. That song ripped my head off.


Another amazing tune. I would have loved to have that one live too.

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VinylGuy wrote:
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Phantom Limb is wonderful. I saw it live and it was a such a great moment.


I thought the same thing about Acid Bubble in 09. That song ripped my head off.


Another amazing tune. I would have loved to have that one live too.



All youtube has is crappy cell phone video of the 09 Milwaukee show I was at but they absolutely ripped. One of the best concerts of my life.


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yeah, mine too. Jerry Cantrell was super awesome and serious. Inez didnt stop for a second. Kinney was awesome. i was blown away with Sean really.
And William is indeed great. He is super talented, his guitar playing is sick

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William didn't play guitar very much in 09. I remember him with an acoustic for Nutshell and that was maybe it. My Indian friend was transfixed by him as we were right on the rail and he really commanded the stage. Nobody gave him Layne shit even then when it was still early on, although some skin head looking types were giving him what looked like a Nazi salute at different points. Also saw someone get knocked out cold with a punch after the last song. It was really a pretty wild environment. The Rave is in a pretty gross part of Milwaukee. Dahmer used to have an apartment close by.


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The crowd loved him. And yes, he played a lot on this show. Great player. And fuck he commands the stage for sure. His place.

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I had a chance to see Jerry solo in Knoxville back in ‘01, ‘02? At the time, I worked overnights and my boss wouldn’t let me trade to be off. The next morning when he came in he asked me why I was there, he thought I was going to be off...

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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Was that the tour Williams band was with him on?

Jerry also opened for Nickelback around that time didn't he?


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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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No. It was right after Degradation Trip was released. He was at a club.

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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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Yeah I think Comes With the Fall did the club shows with him. I could have seen him at the Double Door that tour but didn't. I might have been too young to get in the door at the time anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Alice in Chains
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kudos to Jerry for bringing him to AIC and trust in that music relationship.

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