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 Post subject: Re: The National
PostPosted: Sun September 17, 2023 3:29 pm 
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I like it!

more than FTPOF or are they the same?

It may be recency bias, but I’m convinced I do. Definitely a different feel.

I’m looking forward to listening.

As I post this we’re looking at tix to see them in Houston in November.

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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dad wrote:
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I like it!

more than FTPOF or are they the same?

It may be recency bias, but I’m convinced I do. Definitely a different feel.

I’m looking forward to listening.

As I post this we’re looking at tix to see them in Houston in November.

it's happening. stoked for a brief weekend in Houston.

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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1 Alphabet City (03:43)
2 Deep End (Paul’s in Pieces) (04:29)
3 Weird Goodbyes feat Bon Iver (05:03)
4 Turn off the House (04:35)
5 Dreaming (03:46)
6 Laugh Track feat Phoebe Bridgers (04:24)
7 Space Invader (06:58)
8 Hornets (04:35)
9 Coat on a Hook (04:58)
10 Tour Manager (04:26)
11 Crumble feat Rosanne Cash (04:35)
12 Smoke Detector (07:47)

I find it an odd choice that knowing the collection was going to be released, the Alphabet City and Space Invader singles weren't treated as such; guess that went to the surprise of it all.

The National wrote:
Laugh Track is the band's most freewheeling, all-hands-on-deck album in years. If Frankenstein represented a rebuilding of trust between group members after 20+ years together, the vibrant, exploratory Laugh Track is both the product of that faith and a new statement of intent. Revelling in the license to radically upend its creative process, The National honed most of this material in live performances on tour this year, and captured those invigorated versions in impromptu sessions at producer Tucker Martine’s Portland studio, Flora Recording & Playback. The nearly eight-minute album closer 'Smoke Detector' was recorded in June during a Vancouver soundcheck, completing a body of work bristling with spontaneity and vintage rock energy that makes a perfect complement to the songs found on its more introspective predecessor.

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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It’s no Amnesiac, that’s for sure.

So I’ve had time to really listen to it. Sadly, the it hasn’t aged well.

The best way for me to describe it is, yes, it’s the National playing and singing; it’s just there.


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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yikes.

going to try to get to it at some point, but yikes.

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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they just added more dates, one of which is Tulsa on 11/16. i just bought tix to Houston (11/18) last night. I might end up getting tix for Tulsa too. I can't justify not going when they're going to be 90 mins away. I'll likely hate myself Friday morning though.

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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This was really good and a nice surprise; Space Invader's probably the best song on here, but Deep End, Turn Off The House and the trio at the end are all highlights (this is probably my favorite 3-run of ending songs they've done since Trouble Will Find Me).


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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Smoke Detector is so good. More of that please.


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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By the way, the pitchfork review is pretty spot on. And this part about Bryan Devendorf essentially be persona non grata on the last album is great:

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His fidgety, racing percussion introduces intrigue to the otherwise staid “Turn Off the House,” and he propels “Space Invader” toward the kind of cathartic outro this band used to throw down all the time but now reserves only for the rare nights when the sitters are free and nobody has work the next morning.


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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You can really feel him straining for a good line there, as (at least in the studio) they've never really done anything like Space Invader's outro (other than maybe So Far So Fast, which doesn't feel like that apt a comparison).


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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You can really feel him straining for a good line there, as (at least in the studio) they've never really done anything like Space Invader's outro (other than maybe So Far So Fast, which doesn't feel like that apt a comparison).

At that happens to be my favorite track on that album.


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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space invader
smoke detector
alphabet city (holy crap does this suffer from being no. 1 in the track list)

turn off the house

coat on a hook
dreaming
deep end

crumble

weird goodbyes
tour manager
hornets
laugh track (for the second album in a row, this phoebe bridgers song is the weakest)


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
space invader
smoke detector
alphabet city



yes

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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smoke detector is legit the best thing they've done since TWFM.

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
laugh track (for the second album in a row, this phoebe bridgers song is the weakest)


im not a fan of this track, but i really liked THIS ISNT HELPING
alcott was prob my least fav

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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listening to it right now, nice to see weird goodbyes here

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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Space Invader is awesome

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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the more i listen to this, the more i'm convinced that this album would be so much better with a different track listing. something like this:

deep end
smoke detector
alphabet city
turn off the house
coat on a hook
weird goodbyes
tour manager
laugh track
crumble
hornets
dreaming
space invader


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 Post subject: Re: The National
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Its been a while since these guys got a full album of instant grabbers for me really. They really need to try to rock out more i guess.

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 Post subject: Re: The National
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Turn off the House is a pretty crushing highlight; I've never heard somebody be able to evoke how a relationship ending can numb you in the way Berninger is able to do.

Space Invader
Turn off the House
Crumble
Smoke Detector
Tour Manager
Weird Goodbyes
Deep End
Hornets
Alphabet City
Dreaming
Laugh Track
Coat on a Hook

This review I thought figured out what works about the album well (and the few things hamstringing it, which are mainly production-related): http://www.stereogum.com/2236287/the-national-laugh-track/reviews/premature-evaluation/


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