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Post subject: Re: Remember a band called Pavement? (Mostly Jick Talk)
Posted: Sun December 16, 2018 3:36 am
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tragabigzanda wrote:
I find Godrich’s Work outside of Radiohead to be extremely underwhelming.
I disagree there. R2D will fight this 2D, but I think he latched on to some intangible thing happening with Pavement's sound on Terror Twilight. He has a way of making everything sound slightly spaced out and open, which serves the gaps between measures on Pavement songs well.
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Post subject: Re: Remember a band called Pavement? (Mostly Jick Talk)
Posted: Sun December 16, 2018 3:43 am
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:28 pm Posts: 14522 Location: Space City
run2death wrote:
TT isn't good. Should have been SM's first solo album.
We've been down this road. I disagree, of course. Though I fear that my love of TT has given you the impression that I dislike the more ramshackle stuff, which couldn't be further from the truth.
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Post subject: Re: Remember a band called Pavement? (Mostly Jick Talk)
Posted: Sun December 16, 2018 5:36 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 46993 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
washing machine wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I find Godrich’s Work outside of Radiohead to be extremely underwhelming.
I disagree there. R2D will fight this 2D, but I think he latched on to some intangible thing happening with Pavement's sound on Terror Twilight. He has a way of making everything sound slightly spaced out and open, which serves the gaps between measures on Pavement songs well.
I’m not suggesting he’s a bad engineer by any stretch. But I’ve heard nothing on TT, Mutations, and other records he’s done that are noteworthy or remarkable. Makes me think the genius of the Radiohead records lies mostly with the band.
I worked in a studio for a while that had the same console used on OK Computer, and it was surprisingly easy to mimick a lot of those drum sounds. What’s NOT easy to do is write songs like Radiohead, or to skirt the songwriting line between earnestness and insouciance like Malkmus, without sounding derivative or self-aware.
Really not trying to shit on the dude, because obviously he’s made some stellar records. But I’m convinced his success lies more in his ability to work well with differing personalities, and to help shape the songs from a compositional standpoint. Much of the mystery around OK Computer was dispelled for me once i got some hours on the Neve VR desk, but I’ll never understand how one composes something as lovely as Let Down, and sells their band mates on flushing it out.
Post subject: Re: Remember a band called Pavement? (Mostly Jick Talk)
Posted: Sun December 16, 2018 6:02 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:28 pm Posts: 14522 Location: Space City
tragabigzanda wrote:
washing machine wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I find Godrich’s Work outside of Radiohead to be extremely underwhelming.
I disagree there. R2D will fight this 2D, but I think he latched on to some intangible thing happening with Pavement's sound on Terror Twilight. He has a way of making everything sound slightly spaced out and open, which serves the gaps between measures on Pavement songs well.
I’m not suggesting he’s a bad engineer by any stretch. But I’ve heard nothing on TT, Mutations, and other records he’s done that are noteworthy or remarkable. Makes me think the genius of the Radiohead records lies mostly with the band.
I worked in a studio for a while that had the same console used on OK Computer, and it was surprisingly easy to mimick a lot of those drum sounds. What’s NOT easy to do is write songs like Radiohead, or to skirt the songwriting line between earnestness and insouciance like Malkmus, without sounding derivative or self-aware.
Really not trying to shit on the dude, because obviously he’s made some stellar records. But I’m convinced his success lies more in his ability to work well with differing personalities, and to help shape the songs from a compositional standpoint. Much of the mystery around OK Computer was dispelled for me once i got some hours on the Neve VR desk, but I’ll never understand how one composes something as lovely as Let Down, and sells their band mates on flushing it out.
Good points. Do we have a producers thread? We probably should.
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Post subject: Re: Remember a band called Pavement? (Mostly Jick Talk)
Posted: Wed January 23, 2019 5:01 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:28 pm Posts: 14522 Location: Space City
That came out of nowhere*
At first I thought to myself, “I like the music much better than the video”, but by the end of the video I felt like I understood...something? How perfectly absurd it all is.
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