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Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 3:47 pm
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theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I watched the first half of the vid, and didn't see anything dickish; he even pokes fun at himself for being part of the old guard.
Did you see the part where someone calls out the name of his book, and his first instinct was to run towards that person to confront them, assign malice to their actions and talk about their "massive elitist ego"? That was pretty dickish
You mean when the girl said "Get on the bus!"? Man, I read that situation totally differently. Seemed like his "massive elitist ego" talk was just him continuing the thought train he had been on with the camera crew, and the girl didn't look upset to me at all; looks like she's positively beaming to be meeting one of her heroes.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 3:57 pm
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Well, the dickishness of your actions is not determined by the reactions of other people. Also, to me, they all seemed put off by how weird he was being ("you don't have to be paranoid...") but trying to play it off.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 4:01 pm
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theplatypus wrote:
Well, the dickishness of your actions is not determined by the reactions of other people.
Isn't it though? If one makes a joke and the audience laughs, then the comedian has read the room properly; if people are offended, then the comedian has misunderstood something.
theplatypus wrote:
Get in the Van is the name of his autobiography
Yeah, my mind spit out the Spike Lee movie instead of the Henry Rollins book.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 4:03 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Well, the dickishness of your actions is not determined by the reactions of other people.
Isn't it though?
I don't think so
I don't know if you've been following the Ben Affleck mini-scandal, but if you have, did you see how he groped that reporter's boob on camera, and she laughed it off (and much later revealed that she found it very disturbing)? It's a dick move regardless of how she reacted outwardly to it in the moment
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 4:18 pm
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theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Well, the dickishness of your actions is not determined by the reactions of other people.
Isn't it though?
I don't think so
I don't know if you've been following the Ben Affleck mini-scandal, but if you have, did you see how he groped that reporter's boob on camera, and she laughed it off (and much later revealed that she found it very disturbing)? It's a dick move regardless of how she reacted outwardly to it in the moment
I have been following the Affleck scandal a little bit, but I thought the girl said she was fine with it, that it was an act for the camera? But your point stands. And of course Henry has definitely said some boneheaded things in the past (his thoughts on suicide being one recent example). I just didn't get the vibe that anyone in this particular video was upset, and certainly not trying to suppress a similar emotion. But maybe I'm just misreading them? Or maybe she needs you to tell her how upset she should be. Either scenario is totally possible.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 4:25 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Well, the dickishness of your actions is not determined by the reactions of other people.
Isn't it though?
I don't think so
I don't know if you've been following the Ben Affleck mini-scandal, but if you have, did you see how he groped that reporter's boob on camera, and she laughed it off (and much later revealed that she found it very disturbing)? It's a dick move regardless of how she reacted outwardly to it in the moment
I have been following the Affleck scandal a little bit, but I thought the girl said she was fine with it, that it was an act for the camera? But your point stands. And of course Henry has definitely said some boneheaded things in the past (his thoughts on suicide being one recent example). I just didn't get the vibe that anyone in this particular video was upset, and certainly not trying to suppress a similar emotion. But maybe I'm just misreading them? Or maybe she needs you to tell her how upset she should be. Either scenario is totally possible.
You're thinking of the wrong girl -- I'm talking about the one who was groped without her consent, not the one who got on his lap as part of a running joke
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 4:48 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
bune wrote:
Reading "Do I Come Here Often?" from Hank Rollins and holy balls that guy's a dick. Insufferable even. And he's in his mid-thirties when he wrote it? He's exactly the person he's hating on through the whole book! Talking shit to fans who just want to talk to him and have him sign a record, holy crap.
Yeah he is / was a fucking dick. Here he is being a comple asshole to some people who have the audacity to: 1) be young, 2) recognize him in a public setting. He comes off as super insecure about being the "old-guard".
He seems to have mellowed out a bit with age. His episode of Hot Ones was good.
I watched the first half of the vid, and didn't see anything dickish; he even pokes fun at himself for being part of the old guard.
He's always been both extremely literal, and extremely intellectual; I don't think he values emotion too much. He did a good episode of his podcast recently where he talks quite a bit about how difficult it is for him to connect with people socially, how it feels so unnatural to him, and that's why he tends to spend most of his time by himself, reading and writing.
He's not a major hero of mine or anything, but I've always found him to be very perceptive to the masculine mind set, and he seems to have a good sense of humor about himself.
That's what I've known about him as well so to read this is more than a little weird.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 4:56 pm
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theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Well, the dickishness of your actions is not determined by the reactions of other people.
Isn't it though?
I don't think so
I don't know if you've been following the Ben Affleck mini-scandal, but if you have, did you see how he groped that reporter's boob on camera, and she laughed it off (and much later revealed that she found it very disturbing)? It's a dick move regardless of how she reacted outwardly to it in the moment
I have been following the Affleck scandal a little bit, but I thought the girl said she was fine with it, that it was an act for the camera? But your point stands. And of course Henry has definitely said some boneheaded things in the past (his thoughts on suicide being one recent example). I just didn't get the vibe that anyone in this particular video was upset, and certainly not trying to suppress a similar emotion. But maybe I'm just misreading them? Or maybe she needs you to tell her how upset she should be. Either scenario is totally possible.
You're thinking of the wrong girl -- I'm talking about the one who was groped without her consent, not the one who got on his lap as part of a running joke
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 5:38 pm
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when I was 15, i took a "Liar" cd single to a school dance and convinced the DJ – who had never heard of it – to play it. he turned it off once the first chorus hit.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 5:52 pm
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bodysnatcher wrote:
when I was 15, i took a "Liar" cd single to a school dance and convinced the DJ – who had never heard of it – to play it. he turned it off once the first chorus hit.
The surprising prologue is that his mind was so blown that he started a hardcore/funk/jazz fusion band the next day.
Post subject: Re: Post Random Music-Related Thoughts You Have
Posted: Wed October 18, 2017 5:54 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
when I was 15, i took a "Liar" cd single to a school dance and convinced the DJ – who had never heard of it – to play it. he turned it off once the first chorus hit.
The surprising prologue is that his mind was so blown that he started a hardcore/funk/jazz fusion band the next day.
i'm pretty sure he was recently arrested with heroin, so makes sense
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I watched the first half of the vid, and didn't see anything dickish; he even pokes fun at himself for being part of the old guard.
