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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Tue July 17, 2018 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Yeah, even Adore or Machina don´t have the warmth and feel that SD or MC. And im ok with the different sounds from every album, i appreciate that for sure. |
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| Author: | Ello Sailor [ Tue July 17, 2018 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
VinylGuy wrote: Ello Sailor wrote: Kevin Davis wrote: I like "Zeitgeist" -- not nearly as well as anything pre-breakup, but considerably more than anything that's come since. Even when the songs aren't great, the rocking side of SP just appeals to me -- an inimitable sound. Zeitgeist has some of the weakest production and mixing I've ever heard on a rock record. The vocals are at the forefront and are squeaky clean, and the guitars have an almost synthetic sheen to them. It's a stark contrast to the fuzzy warmth of Gish, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie. It does have Jimmy's drumming, though. After all these years he's still my fav. behind the kit. I agree. But im talking about the songs...And my first post was about James playing those songs and what he could add them. Oh, yeah. 2/3rds of the songs you listed are bad, will not be helped in a live setting, and would be a colossal waste of a slot on the setlist. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Tue July 17, 2018 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Ello Sailor wrote: VinylGuy wrote: Ello Sailor wrote: Kevin Davis wrote: I like "Zeitgeist" -- not nearly as well as anything pre-breakup, but considerably more than anything that's come since. Even when the songs aren't great, the rocking side of SP just appeals to me -- an inimitable sound. Zeitgeist has some of the weakest production and mixing I've ever heard on a rock record. The vocals are at the forefront and are squeaky clean, and the guitars have an almost synthetic sheen to them. It's a stark contrast to the fuzzy warmth of Gish, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie. It does have Jimmy's drumming, though. After all these years he's still my fav. behind the kit. I agree. But im talking about the songs...And my first post was about James playing those songs and what he could add them. Oh, yeah. 2/3rds of the songs you listed are bad, will not be helped in a live setting, and would be a colossal waste of a slot on the setlist. well, good..bad..its just an opinion. I would love to see what James can bring to those. |
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| Author: | Ello Sailor [ Tue July 17, 2018 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
I would love to see what James can bring to the 286 songs better than those from the Zeitgeist era. Stop trying to ruin this tour Vinyl Guy!!!!!! |
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| Author: | bune [ Tue July 17, 2018 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Uh, we've already seen what he can bring to those songs because he's playing on them already, right? I think that's what he's getting at. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Tue July 17, 2018 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
bune wrote: Uh, we've already seen what he can bring to those songs because he's playing on them already, right? I think that's what he's getting at. Exactlyyyyy |
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| Author: | Ello Sailor [ Tue July 17, 2018 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Your appetite for discovery will only bring us pain. |
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| Author: | verb_to_trust [ Tue July 17, 2018 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
James adds basically nothing. He doesn't even look cool anymore. |
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| Author: | Birds in Hell [ Tue July 17, 2018 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
I was feeling pretty down on this tour, the whole thing seemed kind of gross, but having now seen the videos from the shows, it actually looks kind of good in spite of everything. Jimmy and especially James seem like they're genuinely having fun, at least for now. I've never heard Zeitgeist, I might try to find a cheap second-hand copy (it's not on Spotify). |
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| Author: | Ello Sailor [ Wed July 18, 2018 12:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Birds in Hell wrote: I've never heard Zeitgeist, I might try to find a cheap second-hand copy (it's not on Spotify). What the hell? |
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| Author: | Ello Sailor [ Thu July 19, 2018 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
It was released over a decade ago, Spenno. What are you doing, man? |
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| Author: | lecherouslittlestump [ Thu July 19, 2018 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Birds in Hell wrote: I was feeling pretty down on this tour, the whole thing seemed kind of gross, but having now seen the videos from the shows, it actually looks kind of good in spite of everything. Jimmy and especially James seem like they're genuinely having fun, at least for now. I've never heard Zeitgeist, I might try to find a cheap second-hand copy (it's not on Spotify). The only haf decent song on Zeitgeist is United States. The rest is utter dreck, just like everything they've released since Adore. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Mon July 23, 2018 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Im loving the Puff Daddy remix of Ava Adore guys. |
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| Author: | Jammer XCI [ Mon July 23, 2018 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
VinylGuy wrote: Im loving the Puff Daddy remix of Ava Adore guys. This fucking rules, way better than the album version. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Mon July 23, 2018 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Jammer XCI wrote: VinylGuy wrote: Im loving the Puff Daddy remix of Ava Adore guys. This fucking rules, way better than the album version. its really something yeah. He imagined a very different song. |
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| Author: | tragabigzanda [ Mon July 23, 2018 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
VinylGuy wrote: Ello Sailor wrote: Kevin Davis wrote: I like "Zeitgeist" -- not nearly as well as anything pre-breakup, but considerably more than anything that's come since. Even when the songs aren't great, the rocking side of SP just appeals to me -- an inimitable sound. Zeitgeist has some of the weakest production and mixing I've ever heard on a rock record. The vocals are at the forefront and are squeaky clean, and the guitars have an almost synthetic sheen to them. It's a stark contrast to the fuzzy warmth of Gish, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie. It does have Jimmy's drumming, though. After all these years he's still my fav. behind the kit. I agree. But im talking about the songs...And my first post was about James playing those songs and what he could add them. It's Lightning Bolt all over again: Some really decent songs marred by atrocious production. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Mon July 23, 2018 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
yeah, the sound they picked for the album is pretty weird, i get that Billy is hinting a more metallic approach for it, even in the songwriting but its still a very hard one to enjoy...there is warmth and the bass is pretty much buried. |
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| Author: | epilogue [ Thu July 26, 2018 7:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
The Celebration Rock pod did an episode about the anniversary of Siamese Dream and the Pumpkins current tour. If anyone wants to give it a listen. I enjoyed the conversation even if I couldn't at all agree or relate to the sentiments expressed. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Fri July 27, 2018 3:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
Thanks joe I’ll look that up. |
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| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Fri July 27, 2018 5:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread |
I like Zeitgeist too. |
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