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 Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
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That song is poop

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Yeah just so generic and forgettable. Do you think Corgan actually belives it's good?


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And yeah it's tons better than Can't Deny Me. At least the drums are interesting and the guitars are loud.


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also no cash register sounds


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I'm not sure if this is better than Can't Deny Me. Both are very bad.

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chewm wrote:
I'm not sure if this is better than Can't Deny Me. Both are very bad.

Agreed, I can’t draw a distinction.

It’s kind of sad. On some level, the bands must know (or at least suspect) they're not creating work at the same level anymore.


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I agree with trag, billy’s voice is just too upfront. Thats a problem they had in monuments too.
But i love the music. Jimmy is such a beast.
Im really exited for the next 7 songs...and yes some dream pop please.

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One of life's great mysteries is how Billy Corgan forgot how to record an album that doesn't sound like complete shit. That's not even a nice sounding demo.


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One of life's great mysteries is how Billy Corgan forgot how to record an album that doesn't sound like complete shit. That's not even a nice sounding demo.

yeah, that super compressed production with a billion guitars worked so well for them on SD and MCATIS. I dug the sound of Adore, but everything since has been a steady decline into crappier acoustics.


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It's probably a lot of work to record 50 guitar tracks and play all the instruments like he did in the past. Even the artwork looks like clip art on this one.


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yeah, the song basically has no groove at all. There are no lows. No bass. Its weird.
But it does sound better than anything from Monuments, the worst SP sounding album ever i would say.

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Maybe Corgan put out a leftover song from one of the shit albums like monuments to try and prove that if people perceived it as written by the "real" pumpkins they would accept it and love it? I really hope this is what happened because the response is obviously that the song still sucks regardless.


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Maybe Billy ate all the good songs.


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Maybe Corgan put out a leftover song from one of the shit albums like monuments to try and prove that if people perceived it as written by the "real" pumpkins they would accept it and love it? I really hope this is what happened because the response is obviously that the song still sucks regardless.


I think he had Solara for the next album Day for night, or something like that. Jimmy played drums there too i think, but he left the record unfinished.

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New song sucks.

Is still better than Can’t Deny Me.


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verb_to_trust wrote:
Maybe Corgan put out a leftover song from one of the shit albums like monuments to try and prove that if people perceived it as written by the "real" pumpkins they would accept it and love it? I really hope this is what happened because the response is obviously that the song still sucks regardless.

This song is at least four years old (if I understand correctly), so that makes a horrifying kind of sense.


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The vocals sit far too high in the mix, but that's been a problem since Zeitgeist.

Song is average at best. Boo.

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They played on Fallon last night, and yes it was really nice to see James with them again.

Solara sounded pretty cool.

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Oh and James solo in Zero

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Solara sounded pretty cool.

It sounded better than the studio cut, but man Jimmy is really overplaying on the chorus.


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