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Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Thu January 23, 2014 4:45 pm
The worst
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matt reeder wrote:
stip wrote:
what session is that untitled song from their GH on. that was the last pumpkins song I really liked.
They went into the studio right before they broke up and recorded this. I'd put it at somewhere between November 18 and November 28, 2000.
stip wrote:
I made your playlist. I threw try try try (II version) and atom bomb on the end because I really like the former and may like the later. I've heard Machina II once or twice but I'm not familiar with it. Machina I I haven't heard in years but that album got a lot of attention from me shortly after it came out because I loved the pumpkins and REALLY wanted to like this one.
Remember, Machina II is WAY, WAY, WAY better than Machina. The following songs are all top-notch Smashing Pumpkins songs:
Home Let Me Give the World To You Vanity Innocence Glass Theme Cash Car Star Here's to the Atom Bomb Speed Kills Dross
Really, the entire "album" disc of Machina II is just awesome. If they'd released that instead of Machina they would be remembered very differently. "Home", for example, is just so, so, so, so, so good.
They're good core songs, but the singing and esp the production does them no favors.
Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Thu January 23, 2014 6:22 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:42 am Posts: 2447 Location: Minneapolis
home is a pretty great song. definitely among the best of the later original band songs. i saw the 4-show philly run in 2007 and they did an acoustic version on the last night that was also pretty good from what i remember.
i quite like the m2 version of blue skies bring tears. definitely would take that over the album version, though i do like it, too.
the first third of glass + the ghost children is probably my personal favorite piece of music the pumpkins ever laid down. i love the song as a whole, and would name it as my favorite pumpkins track, but those first 3-4 minutes or so are just incredible to me.
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Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Fri January 24, 2014 7:48 am
AnalLog
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:34 pm Posts: 1509
And to get this thread back on track, I'm now going to post some awesome Smashing Pumpkins videos.
The best thing about that video? Billy's and James' GODLIKE guitar tone. I cannot get over how great it is. The other remarkable thing is just how passionate and into the performance Billy is. See him on stage now and it's easy to wonder what happened to him.
This one speaks for itself. Hopefully they release the full DVD when the Machina reissue comes out.
I love that their hometown crowd is heckling them at their own album release party. The weird juxtaposition here is how they come off very petulant and irritated, and then launch into one of their absolute best songs with no introduction whatsoever. This band is full of so many contradictions, and that's a major reason why they fascinate me so much.
Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Fri January 24, 2014 3:29 pm
jeeeesus relax already
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm Posts: 36304
matt reeder wrote:
And to get this thread back on track, I'm now going to post some awesome Smashing Pumpkins videos.
The best thing about that video? Billy's and James' GODLIKE guitar tone. I cannot get over how great it is. The other remarkable thing is just how passionate and into the performance Billy is. See him on stage now and it's easy to wonder what happened to him.
This one speaks for itself. Hopefully they release the full DVD when the Machina reissue comes out.
I love that their hometown crowd is heckling them at their own album release party. The weird juxtaposition here is how they come off very petulant and irritated, and then launch into one of their absolute best songs with no introduction whatsoever. This band is full of so many contradictions, and that's a major reason why they fascinate me so much.
Great post...that Metro show is fucking amazing. And yes, Billy´s reaction torwards the audience are always weird.
Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Fri January 24, 2014 4:06 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:34 pm Posts: 1509
This is pretty sweet:
All that circulates from this show out there is a bad audience tape. Hopefully there's a full source of this video somewhere. It's like being in the front row, seeing them play "Mayonaise".
This is also pretty sweet, from the show the next night:
Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Sat January 25, 2014 9:02 am
Future Drummer
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 9:37 am Posts: 2809
matt reeder wrote:
This is pretty sweet:
All that circulates from this show out there is a bad audience tape. Hopefully there's a full source of this video somewhere. It's like being in the front row, seeing them play "Mayonaise".
I don't want to break your heart, but I had access to all kinds of cool uncirculated Pumpkins videos from the Siamese Tour, including this one, shot by a friend of mine in front of the stage. But because I don't like the Pumpkins, I never pursued it. Right around the time I began to become interested in maybe getting some of these videos, my friend passed away accidentally. All I have now is a VHS sampler tape with various clips from the shows. Kind of a bummer.
Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Sat January 25, 2014 7:49 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:21 am Posts: 2870
matt reeder wrote:
And to get this thread back on track, I'm now going to post some awesome Smashing Pumpkins videos.
I love that their hometown crowd is heckling them at their own album release party. The weird juxtaposition here is how they come off very petulant and irritated, and then launch into one of their absolute best songs with no introduction whatsoever. This band is full of so many contradictions, and that's a major reason why they fascinate me so much.
I always find it so powerful when a band believes in their art so much that they'll accept the heckling, knowing/hoping that the fans will eventually catch up to what's being created.
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Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Sat January 25, 2014 10:32 pm
jeeeesus relax already
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm Posts: 36304
surfndestroy wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
And to get this thread back on track, I'm now going to post some awesome Smashing Pumpkins videos.
I love that their hometown crowd is heckling them at their own album release party. The weird juxtaposition here is how they come off very petulant and irritated, and then launch into one of their absolute best songs with no introduction whatsoever. This band is full of so many contradictions, and that's a major reason why they fascinate me so much.
I always find it so powerful when a band believes in their art so much that they'll accept the heckling, knowing/hoping that the fans will eventually catch up to what's being created.
I have to say, Billy´s been right with a lot of things, specially with Adore. Fuck, we hated that album when it came out. It was really weird...but nowadays, its just plain awesome.
Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Sun January 26, 2014 3:57 am
AnalLog
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:34 pm Posts: 1509
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
This is pretty sweet:
All that circulates from this show out there is a bad audience tape. Hopefully there's a full source of this video somewhere. It's like being in the front row, seeing them play "Mayonaise".
I don't want to break your heart, but I had access to all kinds of cool uncirculated Pumpkins videos from the Siamese Tour, including this one, shot by a friend of mine in front of the stage. But because I don't like the Pumpkins, I never pursued it. Right around the time I began to become interested in maybe getting some of these videos, my friend passed away accidentally. All I have now is a VHS sampler tape with various clips from the shows. Kind of a bummer.
That's okay man. I'm not as interested in video as audio, and I'm mostly waiting for Billy to open the archives since he has all this stuff too. I've got plenty to tide me over.
01. intro 02. Soma 03. Geek U.S.A. 04. Rhinoceros 05. Quiet 06. Window Paine 07. Today 08. Disarm 09. Siva 10. Mayonaise 11. Rocket 12. Hummer 13. Cherub Rock 14. Starla 15. I Am One
16. Drown 17. Silverfuck > Over the Rainbow > Jackboot (tease) Notes
Note: This is a 16bit / 48KHZ recording. It cannot be burned to a cd, unless you convert it to 44.1KHZ. The FLAC files were created using CD Wave 1.98, and they were tested using Media Monkey 3.1.1.1261. *Part of SilverF*ck is missing. I had to change batteries.
Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Sun January 26, 2014 7:19 pm
Mind Your Tanners
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matt reeder wrote:
Oh, and there's this too:
This is the first of the live stuff posted on here that I've clicked on. I can't believe how good that was! On a side note - picked up Siamese Dream on Vinyl the other day - had forgotten how great an album this was
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Post subject: Re: generic smashing pumpkins thread
Posted: Thu January 30, 2014 12:49 am
Jeff's Infallible Pendulum
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 2:06 am Posts: 1919 Location: Australia
I really love the song Drown. Can anyone recommend other SP songs similar in vibe to this tune?
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