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Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu June 08, 2023 6:23 pm
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Jorge wrote:
Can "Muzzle" and "Rocket" coexist in a Smashing Pumpkins playlist or are they way too similar to each other
I say keep 'em both! I admittedly don't find them terribly similar, not within the context of the universal "90's Smashing Pumpkins songs" language they inevitably share. "Muzzle" feels like a straightforward midtempo rock anthem, albeit a great one characteristic of the kind of stuff SP were pumping out in 1995; "Rocket" is slower, fuzzier, dreamier, shoegazier, harder to pin down musically. Perhaps they'd benefit from being spaced out by something distinctly different from them both -- a "Thirty-Three," or a "Whir," or a "Luna" -- but I say include them both without hesitation!
Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu June 08, 2023 7:59 pm
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
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It's a tonal thing, and a strumming pattern thing, and they're both similar tempos and move in similar ways to my ears. I had them right next to each other in a playlist and it felt like too much of the same flavor so I am taking KD's advice and sticking something darker and less mid-tempo in there to split them up
Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu June 08, 2023 10:52 pm
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Man I’m really enjoying the shit outta sp. way more than I thought I was going to. Bc maybe a genius. Is it possible the newer stuff are secretly brilliant too
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Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 2:34 am
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tree_ wrote:
Man I’m really enjoying the shit outta sp. way more than I thought I was going to. Bc maybe a genius. Is it possible the newer stuff are secretly brilliant too
Could you do what Jimmy does tho? Most of it is in 4/4.
Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 4:14 am
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I skipped this band when they toured very recently. Way too expensive and didn't want to subsidise the stupid wrestling troupe that Corgan brought with him. I'm sure they'll be back.
Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 5:08 am
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Exactly.
Pumpkins toured with Jane's Addiction and some other wrestling nonsense here in Australia only a few weeks ago. Tickets were around the $150 mark from memory.
I saw them in 96 and 08 - probably content with those two times tbh.
Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 11:15 am
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Ello Sailor wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Man I’m really enjoying the shit outta sp. way more than I thought I was going to. Bc maybe a genius. Is it possible the newer stuff are secretly brilliant too
Could you do what Jimmy does tho? Most of it is in 4/4.
It would take a lotta practice with those super tight fills, but I could manage
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Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 7:34 pm
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Ello Sailor wrote:
zeb wrote:
I saw them in 96
You can take another hiatus. My mind cannot deal with this.
Should have also seen them in 94 but I was a poor student and had to choose between seeing Soundgarden at a club show or going to the Big Day Out festival where both Soundgarden and the Pumpkins were playing.
The 96 show was, of course, the original lineup, and was on the MCIS tour when they'd play the Mustang scene from Bullitt in full on a projector before they came to out to perform. Wild times, and unlikely to be topped by anything they could possibly offer now.
Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 10:21 pm
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That's amazing. Thank you for sharing.
My fav. Pumpkins performance is actually from that era.
Quite an unexpected setlist. I feel like Billy was playing the contrarian and pulled out a bunch of shit that they hadn't played on the tour leading up to that point. The results speak for themselves -- they've never sounded better. Even D'arcy is on fire.
0:47- Glimpses 4:53- Where Boys Fear to Tread 8:34- Eye 13:32- Tonight, Tonight 17:33- Transformer 21:40- Thru the Eyes of Ruby 29:36- The End Is the Beginning Is The End 35:08- By Starlight 39:01- Bullet With Butterfly Wings 44:23- Muzzle 48:24- 1979 53:08- X.Y.U. 1:03:10- Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 1:15:15- The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)
Post subject: Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 09, 2023 10:42 pm
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Ello Sailor wrote:
That's amazing. Thank you for sharing.
My fav. Pumpkins performance is actually from that era.
Quite an unexpected setlist. I feel like Billy was playing the contrarian and pulled out a bunch of shit that they hadn't played on the tour leading up to that point. The results speak for themselves -- they've never sounded better. Even D'arcy is on fire.
0:47- Glimpses 4:53- Where Boys Fear to Tread 8:34- Eye 13:32- Tonight, Tonight 17:33- Transformer 21:40- Thru the Eyes of Ruby 29:36- The End Is the Beginning Is The End 35:08- By Starlight 39:01- Bullet With Butterfly Wings 44:23- Muzzle 48:24- 1979 53:08- X.Y.U. 1:03:10- Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 1:15:15- The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)
That was solid. If Corgan never sang a lick I would have been totally fine with it.
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