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Post subject: Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 4:28 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:34 pm Posts: 1509
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
Wait, no "Gallons of Rubbing Alchohol Flow Through the Strip"? That's one of the weirdest Nirvana songs ever, and one of my favorite. It's completely nonsensical, but has some of Kurt's best and most unique guitar work.
- It's a hidden track like Endless Nameless. - It's available in a perfect mastering now as part of the regular "In Utero". - It takes up a lot of space.
The Albini mixes of "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" are both on the In Utero reissue. "Gallons" was actually kind of hard to find for many years. I bought a copy of In Utero in Japan that had it but stateside it was not easy to track down for many years. I think it's more worthy of being on a b-side mix than alternate versions of two of their most famous songs.
But it's the same story with "Endless Nameless", which was excluded from various pressings and technically a rairity. With the release of the deluxe edition, it is a permenent part of the album proper as it should be.
But it isn't the same story. "Endless, Nameless" was meant to be on Nevermind. Gallons was never meant to appear on In Utero, at least not the way the band meant it. If it was it would have appeared on the US version in some form. That's why it's labeled "Devalued American Dollar Purchase Incentive Track". I'm sure Kurt had something to do with that; they probably asked him which b-side or outtake he wanted to tack on to the international editions of the album as a bonus to get people abroad to pay higher prices for it. But it wasn't on the US version of the album, wasn't meant to be part of the album, and was actually really hard to track down in the pre-internet days.
Again, I'm just quibbling since I love your set overall. But I'm just perplexed by the exclusion of "Gallons".
Post subject: Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 5:02 pm
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:53 pm Posts: 12081
tragabigzanda wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
Wait, no "Gallons of Rubbing Alchohol Flow Through the Strip"? That's one of the weirdest Nirvana songs ever, and one of my favorite. It's completely nonsensical, but has some of Kurt's best and most unique guitar work.
- It's a hidden track like Endless Nameless. - It's available in a perfect mastering now as part of the regular "In Utero". - It takes up a lot of space.
The Albini mixes of "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" are both on the In Utero reissue. "Gallons" was actually kind of hard to find for many years. I bought a copy of In Utero in Japan that had it but stateside it was not easy to track down for many years. I think it's more worthy of being on a b-side mix than alternate versions of two of their most famous songs.
But it's the same story with "Endless Nameless", which was excluded from various pressings and technically a rairity. With the release of the deluxe edition, it is a permenent part of the album proper as it should be.
Was Endless Nameless excluded from some versions? My CD copy that I got from Columbia House had it.
Mine didn't have it but my friends did...I was pissed.
Post subject: Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 5:10 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47034 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
bada wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
Wait, no "Gallons of Rubbing Alchohol Flow Through the Strip"? That's one of the weirdest Nirvana songs ever, and one of my favorite. It's completely nonsensical, but has some of Kurt's best and most unique guitar work.
- It's a hidden track like Endless Nameless. - It's available in a perfect mastering now as part of the regular "In Utero". - It takes up a lot of space.
The Albini mixes of "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" are both on the In Utero reissue. "Gallons" was actually kind of hard to find for many years. I bought a copy of In Utero in Japan that had it but stateside it was not easy to track down for many years. I think it's more worthy of being on a b-side mix than alternate versions of two of their most famous songs.
But it's the same story with "Endless Nameless", which was excluded from various pressings and technically a rairity. With the release of the deluxe edition, it is a permenent part of the album proper as it should be.
Was Endless Nameless excluded from some versions? My CD copy that I got from Columbia House had it.
Mine didn't have it but my friends did...I was pissed.
Post subject: Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 8:18 pm
A Return To Form
Joined: Fri February 05, 2016 3:20 pm Posts: 177
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
fyfe79 wrote:
Is the improved sound of the alternate In Utero mixes the only difference between the updated version and the original?
Edit: Also see Aneurysm from Del Mar and Seasons in the Sun have been added, and GORAFTTS and the radio edit of SLTS and have been removed.
Yes and yes.
Excellent, thanks once again. Great to have the info on where everything comes from too. For the original version actually, I couldn't figure out which release the live version of "On a Plain" came from. Now I know!
As for GORAFTTS, it's omission is fine by me. Being Irish, and getting the "international" version of IU when it was released, it wasn't rare for me - there was even a sticker on the case highlighting the fact that it was on the album. At least 'Endless Nameless' had the decency to be a genuine hidden track!
Post subject: Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Mon March 13, 2017 10:17 pm
tl;dr
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm Posts: 8529
RM confession: My original copy of "Nevermind" didn't have "Endless Nameless" either, though through folklore and the internet I was aware of its existence. When I was about 13 I agreed to take care of a neighbor's dog while they were on vacation, and when I was in their house I noticed a copy of "Nevermind" on their shelf. Out of curiosity, I put it into their CD player, and immediately took note of its 59-minute running time in lieu of its usual 41. Next time I came back to feed the dog, I brought my copy of "Nevermind" and swapped them. That's the copy of the album I have to this day. I made $25 for feeding the dog, and I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've sought out "Endless Nameless."
Post subject: Re: I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread
Posted: Tue March 14, 2017 9:13 am
A Return To Form
Joined: Fri February 05, 2016 3:20 pm Posts: 177
VinylGuy wrote:
Oh yeah i got a US copy...I need that album to end with Like Suicide...i mean, SLS is a pretty cool song, but its not the closer track.
Ha, I guess it depends on where in the world you're from. To me, living in Ireland, Superunknown always ended with She Likes Surprises and the album feels wrong without it. A cousin of mine now lives in the US and went to watch them perform the album in full a few years ago in Austin and messaged me after that it was a cool show but couldn't understand why they didn't play SLS at the end. He wasn't aware of it not being released in the US.
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