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 Post subject: Re: The everyone LOVES radiohead thread!
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you're not my real dad

by the way, that reminded me of a story. when my son was in junior soccer about 7 years ago, my wife secretly promised to pay him $5 if, during one of his games when i yelled something at him, he yelled out so everyone on the sidelines could hear: "YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD." he did. half the parents who knew me laughed. the other half gasped.

i would’ve yelled back something about adoption being an arduous process.

i almost yelled out "that's pretty obvious, considering how you're playing!"

even better.

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I think that tree is right that Radiohead don’t overthink what constitutes a Radiohead song; but I do think that they often try to fit 5-6 musicians on a track because there’s that many in the band. So the Television song, and their live set from a few months back, are mostly unique simply because they’re able to exist as a more stripped down production without bleeps and bloops and ondes martinots way off in the left channel.


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I don't think one need look any further than Nude/Big Ideas to see evidence of a tendency to overthink things within the band.

But overthinking isn't really the issue. It's confinement. It's stubbornness.


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I don't think one need look any further than Nude/Big Ideas to see evidence of a tendency to overthink things within the band.

But overthinking isn't really the issue. It's confinement. It's stubbornness.

I feel this is a little too cynical. It’s got to be hard to be in a band with that many people. Imagine being Johnny sometimes: “Thom’s singing and playing guitar, Colin’s got this great bass groove going, we have two drummers at the moment, and Ed’s guitar is soaked in reverb and filling everything out. So my options are to turn some knobs, or maybe sit this one out and check the football scores?”


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Like how many six member bands regularly let their mates sit out for multiple songs?

Pearl Jam is up to seven now, and it seems like they’re more inclined to let their friends play rather than try to preserve some sort of fidelity to the original version.

Wilco does a great job of fitting everyone in with very minimal input.

Arcade Fire is Arcade Fire.

The trio is still the best band structure of all time.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
I don't think one need look any further than Nude/Big Ideas to see evidence of a tendency to overthink things within the band.

But overthinking isn't really the issue. It's confinement. It's stubbornness.

I feel this is a little too cynical. It’s got to be hard to be in a band with that many people. Imagine being Johnny sometimes: “Thom’s singing and playing guitar, Colin’s got this great bass groove going, we have two drummers at the moment, and Ed’s guitar is soaked in reverb and filling everything out. So my options are to turn some knobs, or maybe sit this one out and check the football scores?”


that's probably how those handclaps ended up in Lotus Flower


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I dont know if this needs its own thread but anyway, The Smile, the new band of Thom and Jonny.




fuck yes

That first song is one of the worst things I've ever heard.

The second one is OK, I guess.


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this thread is all over the place


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tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
I don't think one need look any further than Nude/Big Ideas to see evidence of a tendency to overthink things within the band.

But overthinking isn't really the issue. It's confinement. It's stubbornness.

I feel this is a little too cynical. It’s got to be hard to be in a band with that many people. Imagine being Johnny sometimes: “Thom’s singing and playing guitar, Colin’s got this great bass groove going, we have two drummers at the moment, and Ed’s guitar is soaked in reverb and filling everything out. So my options are to turn some knobs, or maybe sit this one out and check the football scores?”

I don't know. I've never been in a band. But was it that difficult for three albums? I feel like the stuff you're pointing out speaks to my criticism of the midterm day Radiohead. Which again is not to say that a band should stagnate.


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Yorke should have a side project with every band member so they can all get a chance to shine and not have to find their places in between the beep bops


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Some of y’all talking like in rainbows and moon shaped pool aren’t two of their best.


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 Post subject: Re: The everyone LOVES radiohead thread!
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epilogue wrote:
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I don't think one need look any further than Nude/Big Ideas to see evidence of a tendency to overthink things within the band.

But overthinking isn't really the issue. It's confinement. It's stubbornness.

I feel this is a little too cynical. It’s got to be hard to be in a band with that many people. Imagine being Johnny sometimes: “Thom’s singing and playing guitar, Colin’s got this great bass groove going, we have two drummers at the moment, and Ed’s guitar is soaked in reverb and filling everything out. So my options are to turn some knobs, or maybe sit this one out and check the football scores?”

I don't know. I've never been in a band. But was it that difficult for three albums? I feel like the stuff you're pointing out speaks to my criticism of the midterm day Radiohead. Which again is not to say that a band should stagnate.

Well I don’t think the lush production is a bad thing, or even inherently limiting; I just think that some energy can get lost the more stuff gets piled on, so they gravitate towards certain sounds that allow lots of cooks in the kitchen.

If I had one gripe about mid-period Radiohead, it would be their reliance on big crescendos. From Kid A onward, they seemed to get over the idea that every song had to have a low point and a high point, and could simply exist as static mood pieces.

And that’s what I’m getting with The Smile, too. It’s just that by virtue of having less instruments, the mood can be a bit more driving and less ethereal.

Or something like that.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
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I don't think one need look any further than Nude/Big Ideas to see evidence of a tendency to overthink things within the band.

But overthinking isn't really the issue. It's confinement. It's stubbornness.

I feel this is a little too cynical. It’s got to be hard to be in a band with that many people. Imagine being Johnny sometimes: “Thom’s singing and playing guitar, Colin’s got this great bass groove going, we have two drummers at the moment, and Ed’s guitar is soaked in reverb and filling everything out. So my options are to turn some knobs, or maybe sit this one out and check the football scores?”

I don't know. I've never been in a band. But was it that difficult for three albums? I feel like the stuff you're pointing out speaks to my criticism of the midterm day Radiohead. Which again is not to say that a band should stagnate.

Well I don’t think the lush production is a bad thing, or even inherently limiting; I just think that some energy can get lost the more stuff gets piled on, so they gravitate towards certain sounds that allow lots of cooks in the kitchen.

If I had one gripe about mid-period Radiohead, it would be their reliance on big crescendos. From Kid A onward, they seemed to get over the idea that every song had to have a low point and a high point, and could simply exist as static mood pieces.

And that’s what I’m getting with The Smile, too. It’s just that by virtue of having less instruments, the mood can be a bit more driving and less ethereal.

Or something like that.

Wait …you consider mid period Radiohead everything before kid a?


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 Post subject: Re: The everyone LOVES radiohead thread!
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Call it what you want, but The Bends - HTTF was — in retrospect — very formulaic. And I goddamn love The Bends.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Call it what you want, but The Bends - HTTF was — in retrospect — very formulaic. And I goddamn love The Bends.

Certainly but that ain’t middle period Radiohead !

All that stuff was early Radiohead. A completely different band emerged for kid a - their middle period.


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God I haven’t listened to the bends in years.


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Yeah maybe I should’ve used another term. It’s all relative. Three more albums and KoL will be mid-period.


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