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Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Fri June 30, 2017 4:22 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:42 am Posts: 2445 Location: Minneapolis
r.e.m. hq sent out a promo email for a reissue of the dublin live album from 10 years ago, which is cool and fine, that's a great set. but at the bottom was this:
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Automatic For The People Deluxe Reissue COMING THIS FALL...
The 25th anniversary of the band's groundbreaking album AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE will be commemorated with a deluxe reissue this fall. Details to follow in the coming weeks.
_________________ ah, copperplate, a font for the truly modern man.
The Celebration Rock podcast did an episode recently about Automatic for the People and why R.E.M. seems to have faded from view as one of the quintessential alt rock bands of all time. Steven Hyden (the host) complains that he's heard them lumped in with acts like Billy Joel and Phil Collins and thinks that's absurd.
It's worth a listen, even if Hyden's being kind of a whiny, hipster, idiot (which he calls himself out on a bit) at the beginning. It's a good episode.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Fri October 20, 2017 4:35 pm
tl;dr
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm Posts: 8564
durdencommatyler wrote:
The Celebration Rock podcast did an episode recently about Automatic for the People and why R.E.M. seems to have faded from view as one of the quintessential alt rock bands of all time. Steven Hyden (the host) complains that he's heard them lumped in with acts like Billy Joel and Phil Collins and thinks that's absurd.
This sounds anecdotal at best and like a straw man at worst. Are people really lumping REM in with Phil Collins?
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Fri October 20, 2017 4:37 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47127 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
Kevin Davis wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
The Celebration Rock podcast did an episode recently about Automatic for the People and why R.E.M. seems to have faded from view as one of the quintessential alt rock bands of all time. Steven Hyden (the host) complains that he's heard them lumped in with acts like Billy Joel and Phil Collins and thinks that's absurd.
This sounds anecdotal at best and like a straw man at worst. Are people really lumping REM in with Phil Collins?
"People" do and say stupid things all the time. I've never once heard someone compare REM to Phil Collins, so I have to assume that the host either fabricated the comparison, or heard it once or twice and used it as a jumping-off point for his podcast.
The Celebration Rock podcast did an episode recently about Automatic for the People and why R.E.M. seems to have faded from view as one of the quintessential alt rock bands of all time. Steven Hyden (the host) complains that he's heard them lumped in with acts like Billy Joel and Phil Collins and thinks that's absurd.
This sounds anecdotal at best and like a straw man at worst. Are people really lumping REM in with Phil Collins?
Not in my experience, no. In my circles, they're still kind of a huge deal. I'd actually argue that in my anecdotal experience, if anything, they're overrated.
But also, so what if people compare them to Billy Joel and Phil Collins? The Billy Joel comparison probably doesn't extend much further than "It's the End of the World..." vs "We Didn't Start the Fire." But also those guys are titans of their time. Lumping REM in on that score doesn't seem so offensive to me.
It also makes sense to me that younger people, people born in the mid to late 90's are only hearing REM on Classic Rock or Lite FM stations, surrounded by the likes of Phil Collins and Billy Joel. So it makes some kind of sense to me that younger people might think of them in that context to some degree.
Anyway, they hash all of this out in the episode. Mostly they talk about Automatic but they do spend some time on REM's larger legacy. It's pretty interesting and worth a listen.
For sure, I felt like Hyden was being super anecdotal and I was wondering who he's been talking to. Because, again, in my circles, I don't find that The Smiths or The Pixies or Sonic Youth have such greater cache than REM.
The Celebration Rock podcast did an episode recently about Automatic for the People and why R.E.M. seems to have faded from view as one of the quintessential alt rock bands of all time. Steven Hyden (the host) complains that he's heard them lumped in with acts like Billy Joel and Phil Collins and thinks that's absurd.
This sounds anecdotal at best and like a straw man at worst. Are people really lumping REM in with Phil Collins?
"People" do and say stupid things all the time. I've never once heard someone compare REM to Phil Collins, so I have to assume that the host either fabricated the comparison, or heard it once or twice and used it as a jumping-off point for his podcast.
That's my thinking, too. But again I think there's also something to hearing them on radio stations where they're lumped together. I certainly wouldn't compare someone like Cat Stevens to a band like Led Zeppelin but I certainly heard them next to each other on Classic Rock radio growing up. So, it's possible, in conversation, I could have associated the two.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Fri October 20, 2017 4:55 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47127 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
durdencommatyler wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
The Celebration Rock podcast did an episode recently about Automatic for the People and why R.E.M. seems to have faded from view as one of the quintessential alt rock bands of all time. Steven Hyden (the host) complains that he's heard them lumped in with acts like Billy Joel and Phil Collins and thinks that's absurd.
This sounds anecdotal at best and like a straw man at worst. Are people really lumping REM in with Phil Collins?
"People" do and say stupid things all the time. I've never once heard someone compare REM to Phil Collins, so I have to assume that the host either fabricated the comparison, or heard it once or twice and used it as a jumping-off point for his podcast.
That's my thinking, too. But again I think there's also something to hearing them on radio stations where they're lumped together. I certainly wouldn't compare someone like Cat Stevens to a band like Led Zeppelin but I certainly heard them next to each other on Classic Rock radio growing up. So, it's possible, in conversation, I could have associated the two.
Yeah, that's fair. When I was a kid, everything on the oldies station was just old, you know?
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Fri October 20, 2017 5:14 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 2:19 am Posts: 1355 Location: Portland, OR
durdencommatyler wrote:
The Celebration Rock podcast did an episode recently about Automatic for the People and why R.E.M. seems to have faded from view as one of the quintessential alt rock bands of all time. Steven Hyden (the host) complains that he's heard them lumped in with acts like Billy Joel and Phil Collins and thinks that's absurd.
It's worth a listen, even if Hyden's being kind of a whiny, hipster, idiot (which he calls himself out on a bit) at the beginning. It's a good episode.
I thought it was one of the better eps of this podcast. Brian Koppelman had lots of really insightful & interesting things to say about the band.
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