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Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 9:13 am
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There are times where I argue with friends that REM is the most influential band in the last thirty years. And therefore one of the most influential bands in history of rock (where they sit alongside the beatles, led zep etc...)..anyone agree??
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 3:37 pm
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joostone wrote:
There are times where I argue with friends that REM is the most influential band in the last thirty years. And therefore one of the most influential bands in history of rock (where they sit alongside the beatles, led zep etc...)..anyone agree??
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
joostone wrote:
There are times where I argue with friends that REM is the most influential band in the last thirty years. And therefore one of the most influential bands in history of rock (where they sit alongside the beatles, led zep etc...)..anyone agree??
Absolutely.
Hm. They're a great band, and I love them. I see influence in terms of bringing "college radio"/indie type rock to prominence, but where else do you see their influence?
I'm certainly open to the argument, but I don't think I've ever looked at another band and thought, "they remind me of REM," or "They're trying to do it the way REM does." Or anything of that ilk.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 4:23 pm
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mray10 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
joostone wrote:
There are times where I argue with friends that REM is the most influential band in the last thirty years. And therefore one of the most influential bands in history of rock (where they sit alongside the beatles, led zep etc...)..anyone agree??
Absolutely.
Hm. They're a great band, and I love them. I see influence in terms of bringing "college radio"/indie type rock to prominence, but where else do you see their influence?
I'm certainly open to the argument, but I don't think I've ever looked at another band and thought, "they remind me of REM," or "They're trying to do it the way REM does." Or anything of that ilk.
Just because you don't always hear REM in other bands doesn't mean the influence isn't their. But the best example I can think of is the influence Up had on Radiohead's Kid A.
I've always thought that whatever music a musician is listening to is influencing him, whether you hear it directly or not. It's impossible to listen to art in a vacuum and not let it have any affect on the art you then create. And you always hear about bands like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Radiohead, etc singing REM's praises.
Fun Fact: How The West Was One And Where It Got US is the song that made me an REM fan for life. While not their best song, it's still one of favorites. Maybe my very favorite, as it's the one I listen to the most.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 5:43 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
I just wish I could have seen them live.
same.
They didn't tour much, obviously. I missed them many, many times but was lucky enough to see them once:
September 26, 2003 United Center Chicago, IL
Setlist: 01. Finest Worksong 02. Begin the Begin 03. So Fast, So Numb 04. Drive 05. Animal 06. Shaking Through (played by request; first performance since 1989) 07. Fall on Me 08. Bad Day 09. The One I Love 10. Imitation of Life 11. Daysleeper 12. All the Way to Reno (You're Gonna Be a Star) 13. I Believe 14. Losing My Religion 15. At My Most Beautiful 16. She Just Wants to Be 17. Walk Unafraid 18. Man on the Moon
Encore: 19. Nightswimming 20. Everybody Hurts 21. Electrolite 22. Get Up 23. It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
That was a great tour. I heard almost all of my favorite R.E.M. songs save "Leave", which they almost never played live, and "What's the Frequency Kenneth", which they didn't play much that tour. "Shaking Through" was incredible, since it's maybe my favorite early R.E.M. song and they hadn't played it since the Green tour. I think I was the only person in my section excited about it (and I was definitely the only person excited to hear "I Believe").
I'm jealous of my friends that got to see them on the Monster tour.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 5:49 pm
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Reading this thread reminds me of a conversation I had with my wife recently. We were talking about R.E.M. and I made the argument that they're the best band in rock history nobody ever talks about because they were around for so long people began to forget about them. She said that was because so much of their music is forgettable; I said that's because so many bands were inspired and influenced by them that nobody remembers that R.E.M. did it first (the Decemberists for example; these guys owe their career to R.E.M.).
It was an interesting conversation because we both love R.E.M. but I strongly feel that they deserve even more credit than they get. One of the things that bonded my wife and I when we first met was that I introduced her to early R.E.M. (particularly Murmur) and she fell in love with it, and consequently, me. Or something.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 5:51 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
I'd be a little disappointed if I saw them and they didn't play Country Feedback.
I love that song but I think it would have fallen flat on that audience. It was another shitty Chicago crowd that wasn't going to appreciate anything like that. I think the only way they could have improved that show was to go all-out, Monster-style and do a big rock show instead of playing so much early material. I loved the early material but the crowd definitely did not get it.
Country Feedback would have resulted in about 10% of the crowd going apeshit and the other 90% headed for the bathroom and / or the beer line.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 5:54 pm
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matt reeder wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
I'd be a little disappointed if I saw them and they didn't play Country Feedback.
I love that song but I think it would have fallen flat on that audience. It was another shitty Chicago crowd that wasn't going to appreciate anything like that. I think the only way they could have improved that show was to go all-out, Monster-style and do a big rock show instead of playing so much early material. I loved the early material but the crowd definitely did not get it.
Country Feedback would have resulted in about 10% of the crowd going apeshit and the other 90% headed for the bathroom and / or the beer line.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 5:58 pm
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
I'd be a little disappointed if I saw them and they didn't play Country Feedback.
I love that song but I think it would have fallen flat on that audience. It was another shitty Chicago crowd that wasn't going to appreciate anything like that. I think the only way they could have improved that show was to go all-out, Monster-style and do a big rock show instead of playing so much early material. I loved the early material but the crowd definitely did not get it.
Country Feedback would have resulted in about 10% of the crowd going apeshit and the other 90% headed for the bathroom and / or the beer line.
I don't give a shit what anyone else does.
I don't really either, but that crowd was flat. I was more disappointed that they didn't play "What's the Frequency Kenneth". I got into R.E.M. with Monster and I still love that album more than most people. I knew they weren't going to play much from that album but I was at least hoping for WTFK.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Wed January 02, 2013 7:15 pm
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REM was excellent the times I saw them (4-5, maybe) but the concerts always felt a little flat. There was always a curious lack of energy in the room, despite the band. Not true of the monster tour, but the subsequent times i saw them I really felt it.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Thu January 03, 2013 2:31 am
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Is there a favorite of these boots that you'd recommend starting with? Or just any of 'em?
This one's my current favorite. It should be on Dime at the moment... -------------------------------- 21 November 1995 - The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Source: Soundboard
Lineage: 2 x first gen Sony UX.Pro 90s IEC II/Type II High Bias. Transferred to CD by JEMS: Nakamichi 670ZX (azimuth adjust) > Lyra soundcard > Wavelab Torrented by me: CD-R > EAC > Flac
The finale of the Monster tour presented in pristine quality… enjoy!
Disc 1 01. What's The Frequency, Kenneth? 02. Crush With Eyeliner 03. Drive 04. Fall On Me 05. Wake-Up Bomb 06. Undertow 07. Losing My Religion 08. Binky The Doormat 09. Bang And Blame 10. Zither 11. Strange Currencies 12. Revolution 13. Tongue 14. Man On The Moon
Disc 2
01. Country Feedback 02. Find The River 03. The One I Love 04. Pop Song 89 05. Get Up 06. Star 69
encore: 07. Nightswimming 08. Let Me In 09. Everybody Hurts 10. Java - Band Intro 11. So. Central Rain - Happy Birthday to Rain Phoenix 12. Departure 13. Radio Free Europe 14. It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine) 15. Wild Thing
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