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Document is better than I remember. The first half is really nice and it loses steam on the second half. But all around far more enjoyable than I'd given it credit for. Still not as good as LRP, though. That one is still king up to this point.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Thu December 20, 2018 6:08 pm
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"Document" has some incredible highs, but for my money more flat out duds than any of the other IRS albums. It also contains a couple songs I just never seek out due to fatigue. As such it's probably my least favorite pre-WB album.
Joey, do you hear a lot of "Welcome to the Occupation" in the Decemberists?
"Document" has some incredible highs, but for my money more flat out duds than any of the other IRS albums. It also contains a couple songs I just never seek out due to fatigue. As such it's probably my least favorite pre-WB album.
Joey, do you hear a lot of "Welcome to the Occupation" in the Decemberists?
For sure. I think one of the biggest revelations to me in this little journey is how much the Decemberists owe to REM in general. I don't think that had ever really clicked for me until now. Ditto They Might Be Giants.
It's weird how two of my all time favorite bands (who I've always drawn connections between) owe so much to REM and yet I'm not a huge REM fan. I like REM, obviously, and but I don't like them anywhere near as much as these other two bands that wouldn't exist as they are without REM.
Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
Posted: Thu December 20, 2018 6:22 pm
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There's just something about the mysterious, sepia-toned vibe of those songs that really registers with me. I think PJ's "Leatherman" is a direct descendant of that album.
There's just something about the mysterious, sepia-toned vibe of those songs that really registers with me. I think PJ's "Leatherman" is a direct descendant of that album.
Out of Time is still really uneven. Though, the highs are probably some of the highest in their entire catalog. There are a lot of great pieces of songs but not a lot of great songs.
Automatic For The People has grown on me. I think it still suffers with the Everybody Hurts, New Orleans Instrumental combo, though. And Star Me Kitten is pretty bad. Otherwise though it's an outstanding record that has been well served by the break I've given it. Songs that I've always liked, came off even stronger than before. Songs I thought were mediocre came off as much better than I remember. I have no problem calling this a masterpiece, nor do I fault anyone who has it in their top slot.
1. LRP 2. Automatic 3. Reckoning 4. Fables 5. Green 6. Document 7. Out of Time 8. Murmur
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