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 Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
PostPosted: Thu November 21, 2019 4:54 pm 
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Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking


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Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking


Yeah. They were right there but never fully plunged into suck like another band we all know.

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Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


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Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


Imitation of Life alone pulls it out of suck territory.

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 Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
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verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


Imitation of Life alone pulls it out of suck territory.

I guess it depends on how many good songs it takes to keep an album from sucking. I like three songs on the album. I love one of those. If that's enough then I'll take back what I said. But I never want to listen to the record, only those songs I like.


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verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


I'll take the Rain alone pulls it out of suck territory.

Fixed it for you

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Rangi Guy wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


I'll take the Rain alone pulls it out of suck territory.

Fixed it for you

I'll Take the Rain is bliss.


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durdencommatyler wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


I'll take the Rain alone pulls it out of suck territory.

Fixed it for you

I'll Take the Rain is bliss.


So that's two songs. The album doesn't suck.

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 Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
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The Lifting
I've Been High
Imitation of Life
I'll Take the Rain

I love those 4, so I can't say the album as a whole sucks. But the rest of the songs are decidedly average by R.E.M. standards.

I know the band rag on Around The Sun quite a bit, and I agree that they probably messed with it too much...but I can't help loving it for some reason. The last few songs absolutely suck balls, but it also has:

Electron Blue
The Outsiders
Final Straw
I Wanted To Be Wrong
Boy In The Well
Aftermath

Those are top notch songs for me, so I think I rank ATS higher than Reveal.

Monster remix is pretty cool, I'm digging the extra reverb on I Took Your Name, and I love what they've done with Crush With Eyeliner.


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 Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
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verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


I'll take the Rain alone pulls it out of suck territory.

Fixed it for you

I'll Take the Rain is bliss.


So that's two songs. The album doesn't suck.

Again, it just depends on how you want to define it. Three songs is a quarter of the record. If 3/4 of the thing is bad to unlistenable, I'd still say the record sucks. If one or two songs is good enough for you, then there you go.


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 Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


yes yes yes. I agree so much with this.

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 Post subject: Re: How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us: An REM Thread
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
Yeah it's funny with these guys. Ive always liked them. I actually have really personal connections to Nightswimming from my late teens. But now that I'm older I feel like it just clicks. Phenomenal group who never put out a record that sucked.

around the sun and reveal are probably the closest to teetering on sucking

Reveal absolutely sucks. Around the Sun though...


yes yes yes. I agree so much with this.

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Reveal has some great songs that suffer from overly polished production work. I would love a Reveal Naked.


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Reveal has some great songs that suffer from overly polished production work. I would love a Reveal Naked.

Ok, now THAT'S interesting...


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I liked both albums.


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durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Reveal has some great songs that suffer from overly polished production work. I would love a Reveal Naked.

Ok, now THAT'S interesting...

Just listen to the Reveal songs from their second Unplugged appearance.


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You know whats an awesome song? Harborcoat

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You know whats an awesome song? Harborcoat

:thumbsup: damn right


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Harborcoat is a top 10 song for me...

The Live at Olympia version is really cool:



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