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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
PostPosted: Wed October 13, 2021 3:29 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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I've been up and down on the guy for years. I liked Shellac in high school, particularly 1000 Hurts, and I have enjoyed albums he's produced. But I've also found myself shaking my head at some of his takes, and then other times thinking "this guy's alright." In many ways, he's a lot like Trag


there is a species of albini fan -- reactionary, conversant in philosophy, awed by transgression, thoroughly solipsistic -- that i fucking hate. maybe more than any other kind of art fan.

Appreciate the comparison guys. I know exactly what Malloy is talking about here though. Shellac puts on some of the best shows I've ever seen, attended by the biggest bunch of assholes I've ever met (the "punishers" Albini mentions in his tweet thread).

I am currently getting a kick out of a few RMers' desire to rip Albini down because he made fun of Pearl Jam once.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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Probably the biggest personality cue I've taken from Albini (and Ralph Nader, to a certain extent) is to just talk earnestly and directly to things as I see them; and to be willing to be proven wrong; and when I'm wrong, to just kind of shrug and say "Welp, yeah I was wrong, on to the next one."


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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I don't know who this Albini character is, but you're in good company (with me).

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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i already said i am a fan!

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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maybe i'll listen to shellac on the way home from the office today.

i don't recall that i ever have.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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maybe i'll listen to shellac on the way home from the office today.

i don't recall that i ever have.

Start with 1000 Hurts or Dude Incredible


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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tragabigzanda wrote:
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maybe i'll listen to shellac on the way home from the office today.

i don't recall that i ever have.

Start with 1000 Hurts or Dude Incredible

:thumbsup:

i'll report back with my findings.

fwiw, i think it's kind of funny he roasted PJ. i mean...we do.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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tragabigzanda wrote:

I am currently getting a kick out of a few RMers' desire to rip Albini down because he made fun of Pearl Jam once.

If you are referring to me, make no mistake it isn't about him making fun of Pearl Jam. That seems like you are dumbing down me and the criticism. It is because his takes are more of "this type of art is bad and wrong and I don't know how anyone can like it but not like art made by my fringe friends that no one has heard of". Posting on social media to get attention to the fact that he doesn't like a popular band and is somehow cool because of it seems like nothing more than an attention grab. That and he wears black tshirts.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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i never knew he was a billiards guy. kind of miffed i've never seen him in the pool halls here

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
PostPosted: Wed October 13, 2021 5:48 pm 
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Probably the biggest personality cue I've taken from Albini (and Ralph Nader, to a certain extent) is to just talk earnestly and directly to things as I see them; and to be willing to be proven wrong; and when I'm wrong, to just kind of shrug and say "Welp, yeah I was wrong, on to the next one."

R u srs?

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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i started 1000 Hurts, and got about 3-4 songs in before switching to Dude Incredible. I like the opener on DI.

we'll see about the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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I am currently getting a kick out of a few RMers' desire to rip Albini down because he made fun of Pearl Jam once.

If you are referring to me, make no mistake it isn't about him making fun of Pearl Jam. That seems like you are dumbing down me and the criticism. It is because his takes are more of "this type of art is bad and wrong and I don't know how anyone can like it but not like art made by my fringe friends that no one has heard of". Posting on social media to get attention to the fact that he doesn't like a popular band and is somehow cool because of it seems like nothing more than an attention grab. That and he wears black tshirts.

That’s a pretty subjective reading of what he said about PJ, but maybe you’re referring to something else he said?

At any rate, he has 14K Twitter followers who are already fans, so I don’t think his intent is to have any sort of meaningful impact on those who have an alternate view.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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Ello Sailor wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Probably the biggest personality cue I've taken from Albini (and Ralph Nader, to a certain extent) is to just talk earnestly and directly to things as I see them; and to be willing to be proven wrong; and when I'm wrong, to just kind of shrug and say "Welp, yeah I was wrong, on to the next one."

R u srs?

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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Classic Tragbini.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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Dad, you should check the opener for shellac's second album. The one with the spacecraft on the cover.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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That song is like the oatmeal of Shellac.


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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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that's a compliment, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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washing machine wrote:
Dad, you should check the opener for shellac's second album. The one with the spacecraft on the cover.

i actually prefer that opening song to most of Albini's vocals.

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 Post subject: Re: Steve Albini fans
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dad wrote:
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Dad, you should check the opener for shellac's second album. The one with the spacecraft on the cover.

i actually prefer that opening song to most of Albini's vocals.

It's definitely an acquired taste


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