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Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:47 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
private equity is generally oriented towards extractive capitalism, so the existential danger I see is more AI-assisted production. For example, one day we'll probably get a bunch of make believe Nirvana tunes that sound real.
They can easily train those generative models without owning the masters though. They're already doing it
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Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:49 pm
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Jorge wrote:
They can easily train those generative models without owning the masters though. They're already doing it
yes, but with PE at the helm they'll eventually start to aggressively market and distribute. I don't care if it's some guy's experiment on YouTube; I'll even check it out. But I rue the day we see a 2LP 180g pressing of the followup to In Utero.
Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:50 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:
They can easily train those generative models without owning the masters though. They're already doing it
yes, but with PE at the helm they'll eventually start to aggressively market and distribute. I don't care if it's some guy's experiment on YouTube; I'll even check it out. But I rue the day we see a 2LP 180g pressing of the followup to In Utero.
doesn't sound like a problem to me. the soul isn't there, it is a different thing, a fun novelty
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Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 3:52 pm
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tree_ wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Jorge wrote:
They can easily train those generative models without owning the masters though. They're already doing it
yes, but with PE at the helm they'll eventually start to aggressively market and distribute. I don't care if it's some guy's experiment on YouTube; I'll even check it out. But I rue the day we see a 2LP 180g pressing of the followup to In Utero.
doesn't sound like a problem to me. the soul isn't there, it is a different thing, a fun novelty
Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 6:07 pm
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tragabigzanda wrote:
private equity is generally oriented towards extractive capitalism, so the existential danger I see is more AI-assisted production. For example, one day we'll probably get a bunch of make believe Nirvana tunes that sound real.
I'm with you. The buying/buyer bothers me a bit more than the seller, though I couldn't confidently tell you a music label wouldn't do the same thing.
Given the way streaming and the decline of physical media has changed how musicians make money, I feel like we would need to identify other viable ways to make a living off your music. It was easier to be precious about this in an era of million plus album sales being easy to come by
Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Mon March 18, 2024 6:09 pm
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stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
private equity is generally oriented towards extractive capitalism, so the existential danger I see is more AI-assisted production. For example, one day we'll probably get a bunch of make believe Nirvana tunes that sound real.
I'm with you. The buying/buyer bothers me a bit more than the seller, though I couldn't confidently tell you a music label wouldn't do the same thing.
Given the way streaming and the decline of physical media has changed how musicians make money, I feel like we would need to identify other viable ways to make a living off your music. It was easier to be precious about this in an era of million plus album sales being easy to come by
Therefore...It's a matter of time before the human element is almost completely stripped from music. Drum sounds matter, amirite?!
Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 2:55 am
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Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Tue March 19, 2024 9:48 pm
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Kevin Davis wrote:
The Sundays' version of the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses" was used in an ad featuring the Budweiser clydesdales in the mid-'90's; I remember it aired relentlessly during NBA on NBC during the season that Michael Jordan was playing AA baseball. I had never heard the original and assumed it was a song written exclusively for the commercial, and I thought the singer was singing "the world, world of horses."
This surprised me.
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Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 2:30 am
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oasisfan35 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
The Sundays' version of the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses" was used in an ad featuring the Budweiser clydesdales in the mid-'90's; I remember it aired relentlessly during NBA on NBC during the season that Michael Jordan was playing AA baseball. I had never heard the original and assumed it was a song written exclusively for the commercial, and I thought the singer was singing "the world, world of horses."
This surprised me.
I was only 10 or so; classic rock was still a few years away for me.
Post subject: Re: How do ya feel about an artist selling their catolog?
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 2:40 am
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Kevin Davis wrote:
oasisfan35 wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
The Sundays' version of the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses" was used in an ad featuring the Budweiser clydesdales in the mid-'90's; I remember it aired relentlessly during NBA on NBC during the season that Michael Jordan was playing AA baseball. I had never heard the original and assumed it was a song written exclusively for the commercial, and I thought the singer was singing "the world, world of horses."
This surprised me.
I was only 10 or so; classic rock was still a few years away for me.
in an interview many years ago, Bob Dylan was asked if there was a song that he wished he had written and he said wild horses...
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