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Post subject: Re: Prove it!!! A Post About Post Punk!!!
Posted: Thu October 08, 2020 5:31 pm
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I don't have a lot of Post Punk experience so I don't have much to add but I just started giving Joy Division a real listen and I really like them. Is Killing Joke Post Punk? I love their first five albums.
I need someone to explain to me exactly what "post punk" is. That has always alluded me and im pretty certain i listen to and love a lot of this music.
Post subject: Re: Prove it! A Post About Post Punk
Posted: Fri October 09, 2020 3:09 am
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Strat wrote:
I need someone to explain to me exactly what "post punk" is. That has always alluded me and im pretty certain i listen to and love a lot of this music.
Post subject: Re: Prove it! A Post About Post Punk
Posted: Fri October 09, 2020 4:36 am
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Major post-punk person here. Some of my favorite albums:
The Chameleons - Strange Times Echo And The Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy Joy Division - Closer Killing Joke - Night Time Love And Rockets - Love And Rockets New Order - Brotherhood Talking Heads - Remain In Light The The - Soul Mining XTC - Black Sea
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Strat wrote:
I need someone to explain to me exactly what "post punk" is. That has always alluded me and im pretty certain i listen to and love a lot of this music.
I probably just call it punk.
Yeah me too
I thought post meant after
It took cues from punk, but added some influences from other genres. The "post" part is because punk had started around five-ish years prior, much like how when we talk about post-grunge, we're talking stuff that started around 1994. Not that far removed in the timeline, but still "post" the beginning of its roots. All that said, it's a somewhat problematic genre, being a bit too much of an umbrella term. Things like goth and college rock, for example, have some bands here and there that fit under this banner.
Post subject: Re: Prove it! A Post About Post Punk
Posted: Fri October 09, 2020 10:45 am
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Yeah, for me post-punk shares the same primal simplicities as punk (or proto-punk) where it's mostly about creative expression rather than technical abilities. But it feels more creative and free than the punk bands. Since Ramones and Television both played the CBGB's at around the same time you can't even say that post-punk came later than punk. I would agree that it's an umbrella term. I allso feel that punk started a lot of genres which all became alternative a decade later.
PUNK >> Hardcore Punk >> Alternative PUNK >> College Rock >> Alternative PUNK >> Post-Punk >> Alternative.
That's mostly in the US. In the UK Post-Punk kinda merged with New-Wave/New-Romance. So, is that also Post-Punk?
Post subject: Re: Prove it! A Post About Post Punk
Posted: Fri October 09, 2020 4:55 pm
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Punk was a response to all the sophisticated and pretentious rock from the first part of the 70s, it was like a reset, a palate cleanser, a back to basics in terms of music, sensibilities and ideals. So the post-punk just build upon this, but without the restraint of the "3 chords" and with all the palette full of colors and sounds, ready to merge with other sub genres (like dub) and inevitably, getting as ambitious as the kind of rock they were rebelling to, morphing into new wave, new romantics, goth, dance punk, shoegaze, dream pop, etc. Punk and post punk practically start at the same time, the difference is that punk born dead.
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