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Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Sat August 14, 2021 11:30 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 9:37 am Posts: 2809
And here is my personal "live vault" playlsit:
Roadhouse Blues (NYC 1) Ship Of Fools (NYC 1) Break On Thru (NYC 1) Peace Frog/Blue Sunday (NYC 1) Alabama Song (NYC 1) Back Door Man (NYC 4) Five To One (NYC 1) When The Music's Over (NYC 2) The Crystal Ship (Los Angeles 2) You Make Me Real (Los Angeles 2) Been Down So Long (Detroit) Celebration Of The Lizard (Los Angeles 1) Who Do You Love (NYC 1) Universal Mind (Los Angeles 2) Light My Fire (NYC 1 & 4) - edit Soul Kitchen (Los Angeles 2) The End (NYC 2)
Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Mon August 16, 2021 2:21 am
Future Drummer
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 9:37 am Posts: 2809
Here are the versions used for Absolutely Live and Alive She Cried which were also released together as In Concert, in case anyone is interested...
Absolutely Live: 1) House Announcer - Philadelphia 2) Who Do You Love? - NYC 1st Show 3) Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar) - NYC 1st Show 4) Back Door Man - NYC 4th Show 5) Love Hides - Philadelphia 6) Five to One - edit of NYC 2nd Show and 4th Show 7) Build Me a Woman - NYC 2nd Show 8) When the Music's Over - NYC 2nd Show 9) Close to You - NYC 4th Show 10) Universal Mind - Los Angeles 2nd show 11) Petition the Lord with Prayer - NYC 4th Show 12) Dead Cats, Dead Rats - Detroit 13) Break On Through - Detroit 14) Celebration of the Lizard - Los Angeles 1st Show 15) Soul Kitchen - Los Angeles 2nd show 16) Outro - NYC 3rd Show
Alive She Cried: 1) Gloria - Los Angeles rehearsal with overdubs 2) Light My Fire - Frankenstein edit of Los Angeles, NYC, Philly & Boston 3) You Make Me Real - Los Angeles 2nd Show 4) Texas Radio - Copenhagen 1968 with overdubs 5) Love Me Two Times - Copenhagen 1968 with overdubs 6) Little Red Rooster - NYC 1st Show with overdubs 7) Moonlight Drive - NYC 3rd Show with overdubs
Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 7:23 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Wed September 25, 2013 4:31 pm Posts: 64
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
Here is the sad saga of the official "live" vault releases:
The Matrix Tapes are a blast but bootleg quality.
Hollywood Bowl 1968 is very good but has much audio trickery.
The two Los Angeles 1969 shows are very good but low key.
The New York 1970 shows range from decent to excellent. First show is essential.
Boston, Philly and Pittsburgh are not very good at all and probably best avoided.
Detroit has a very strong first half but eventually dissolves into worthless bullshit.
Vancouver is an audience tape.
Isle Of Wight is decent enough but they took ridiculous and unnecessary liberties "editing" the official release.
Thanks for the Live Vault playlist. I really enjoy it.
One of the underrated things about The Doors is Bruce Botnik. The Doors albums and the Multitracked shows 50 years later sound great. He really did a great job capturing the music.
As far as the audio trickery on the Hollywood Bowl, I don't mind it. It actually inspired me to try the same trickery to eliminate the errors in PJ's 1995 Constitution Hall dropouts. Also, I really don't mind the fact that John Sebastion overdubbed his harmonica on the Felt Forum shows. I feel Bruce really put in some effort to make the Bright Midnight and latest live releases from the past decade as authentic as possible.
The LA shows are my favs because they are low key. The rehearsal show is god awful though.
Looking forward to the LA Woman Box that, hopefully, will be announced soon. The Soft Parade Box has some great nuggets on CD2 and CD3.
Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 8:14 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 9:37 am Posts: 2809
gatherspeed wrote:
As far as the audio trickery on the Hollywood Bowl, I don't mind it. It actually inspired me to try the same trickery to eliminate the errors in PJ's 1995 Constitution Hall dropouts. Also, I really don't mind the fact that John Sebastion overdubbed his harmonica on the Felt Forum shows. I feel Bruce really put in some effort to make the Bright Midnight and latest live releases from the past decade as authentic as possible.
I don't mind those because they were arguably necessarry.
What they did to Isle Of Wight is ridiculous though.
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Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Fri August 20, 2021 11:34 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Wed September 25, 2013 4:31 pm Posts: 64
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
gatherspeed wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
As far as the audio trickery on the Hollywood Bowl, I don't mind it. It actually inspired me to try the same trickery to eliminate the errors in PJ's 1995 Constitution Hall dropouts. Also, I really don't mind the fact that John Sebastion overdubbed his harmonica on the Felt Forum shows. I feel Bruce really put in some effort to make the Bright Midnight and latest live releases from the past decade as authentic as possible.
I don't mind those because they were arguably necessarry.
What they did to Isle Of Wight is ridiculous though.
Yea, I agree with the guitar and drum sampling, this is the one release the dropped the ball on. But, I never play it. It's not a great performance and the since others are so much better, it's just not in my rotation.
Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Tue August 24, 2021 1:45 am
AnalLog
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 7:12 am Posts: 1642 Location: The Jungle
Great reviews! This is definitely a band, defined by its front man... as you all have said, when he is on, arguably one of the greatest bands of all time. When he is off... its the biggest train wreck ever. The best example of this is the European tour of 68. Amsterdam he got wasted, danced on stage through all of Jefferson Airplanes set, passed out (did he O.D. here? I cant remember) leaving Ray to sing the whole set.
5 nights later in Stockholm they play some of the best sets they ever played. BY FAR (IMO) the best versions of Light My Fire. John Densmore is absolutely ON FIRE
Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Tue August 24, 2021 1:55 am
AnalLog
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 7:12 am Posts: 1642 Location: The Jungle
and, if Morrison lives another year, and, they get him back from Paris, the talk was they were going to still Jerry Scheff away from Elvis (the bass player from the LA Woman album) and finally tour with a bass man. Can only imagine the life he would have put into some of those songs with his great bass playing. When the Musics Over is pretty much 4 notes on bass for 10+ mins. Light My Fire has so many spots for all sorts of fills during the solos. I love playing 5 to 1 on my bass, and I'm just a hack who plays by ear. Would have loved to hear Jerry walk around that one.
Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Tue August 24, 2021 5:47 am
Future Drummer
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:21 am Posts: 2870
MadTIGERmaN wrote:
5 nights later in Stockholm they play some of the best sets they ever played. BY FAR (IMO) the best versions of Light My Fire. John Densmore is absolutely ON FIRE
liebzz's reviews are amazing. Holy shit, this is astounding.
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Post subject: Re: The Doors - A Journey with the Lizard King
Posted: Tue August 24, 2021 7:43 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 9:37 am Posts: 2809
Last chance to grab my mix, bitchez!
THE DOORS "Wendy's Live Vault Picks" ======================== 101 Intro (1970-04-10 (L) Boston) 102 Roadhouse Blues (1970-01-17 (E) NYC) 103 Ship Of Fools (1970-01-17 (E) NYC) 104 Break On Thru (1970-01-17 (E) NYC) 105 Peace Frog/Blue Sunday (1970-01-17 (E) NYC) 106 Alabama Song (1970-01-17 (E) NYC) 107 Back Door Man (1970-01-18 (L) NYC) 108 Five To One (1970-01-17 (E) NYC) 109 When The Music's Over (1970-01-17 (L) NYC) 110 The Crystal Ship (1969-07-21 (L) Hollywood) 111 You Make Me Real (1969-07-21 (L) Hollywood) 112 Been Down So Long (1970-05-08 Detroit) 201 Celebration Of The Lizard (1969-07-21 (E) Hollywood) 202 Who Do You Love (1970-01-17 (E) New York City) 203 Universal Mind (1969-07-21 (L) Hollywood) 204 Light My Fire (1970-01-17 (E) & 01-18 (L) New York City) 205 Soul Kitchen (1969-07-21 (L) Hollywood) 206 The End (1970-01-17 (L) New York City)
liebzz's journey has unexpectedly sent me down a Doors rabbit hole. After many years away from their music, I am finding I am enjoying it more than I ever have before.
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