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New Slaves is definitely a phenomenal song. I listened to it a lot this summer to get hyped for shows I was in. It's fucking nasty.
Have you heard Death Grips? You should give their album The Money Store a listen. I feel like they had a big influence on parts of Yeezus.
Yeah Death Grips are great. I got way into them after you showed me Takyon. They split up recently, yeah?
I'm still not much of a fan of Yeezus, but Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is undeniable. What a great album.
Yeah they broke up, went out pretty cool though as they released two more albums basically right before they did. And one of them had a song called "Black Quarterback" with a Bjork sample. So yeah, big Death Grips fan over here.
Also, Kanye has never been a great rapper. He is kind of the musical equivalent of a decent athlete that is a great coach/GM. There's a reason he rarely raps on stuff he doesn't produce. He's Bill Belichick, not Tom Brady.
Also, Kanye has never been a great rapper. He is kind of the musical equivalent of a decent athlete that is a great coach/GM. There's a reason he rarely raps on stuff he doesn't produce. He's Bill Belichick, not Tom Brady.
i think there is real potential in rapper and football player/coach comparisons:
Michael Vick=DMX Aaron Rodgers=Jay-Z Ben Roethlisberger=Mystikal Ndamukong Suh=Bonecrusher Carson Palmer=Big Sean Terry Bradshaw and Lynn Swann=Eric B and Rakim Oakland Raiders=Arrested Development
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making this place inhospitable to posting is really the only move left.
Also, Kanye has never been a great rapper. He is kind of the musical equivalent of a decent athlete that is a great coach/GM. There's a reason he rarely raps on stuff he doesn't produce. He's Bill Belichick, not Tom Brady.
Whether or not he's a great rapper in the technical sense, I do like him on the mic -- he has a gift for things (e.g. inflection, emphasis, phrasing) that are more important to me than an impeccable flow, same as Dylan and Tom Waits and similarly "bad singers" possess something distinctly charismatic in their deliveries that are more important to me than a classically beautiful singing voice. For me that transcends his tendency to trip over rhythms and occasionally fall back on stupid rhymes, offenses which I feel are not unjustly pointed out but still somewhat overstated.
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Orpheus wrote:
Also, Kanye has never been a great rapper. He is kind of the musical equivalent of a decent athlete that is a great coach/GM. There's a reason he rarely raps on stuff he doesn't produce. He's Bill Belichick, not Tom Brady.
Whether or not he's a great rapper in the technical sense, I do like him on the mic -- he has a gift for things (e.g. inflection, emphasis, phrasing) that are more important to me than an impeccable flow, same as Dylan and Tom Waits and similarly "bad singers" possess something distinctly charismatic in their deliveries that are more important to me than a classically beautiful singing voice. For me that transcends his tendency to trip over rhythms and occasionally fall back on stupid rhymes, offenses which I feel are not unjustly pointed out but still somewhat overstated.
I have nothing to add here, but I just want to say that this was a great post.
Also, Kanye has never been a great rapper. He is kind of the musical equivalent of a decent athlete that is a great coach/GM. There's a reason he rarely raps on stuff he doesn't produce. He's Bill Belichick, not Tom Brady.
Whether or not he's a great rapper in the technical sense, I do like him on the mic -- he has a gift for things (e.g. inflection, emphasis, phrasing) that are more important to me than an impeccable flow, same as Dylan and Tom Waits and similarly "bad singers" possess something distinctly charismatic in their deliveries that are more important to me than a classically beautiful singing voice. For me that transcends his tendency to trip over rhythms and occasionally fall back on stupid rhymes, offenses which I feel are not unjustly pointed out but still somewhat overstated.
I have nothing to add here, but I just want to say that this was a great post.
Also, Kanye has never been a great rapper. He is kind of the musical equivalent of a decent athlete that is a great coach/GM. There's a reason he rarely raps on stuff he doesn't produce. He's Bill Belichick, not Tom Brady.
Whether or not he's a great rapper in the technical sense, I do like him on the mic -- he has a gift for things (e.g. inflection, emphasis, phrasing) that are more important to me than an impeccable flow, same as Dylan and Tom Waits and similarly "bad singers" possess something distinctly charismatic in their deliveries that are more important to me than a classically beautiful singing voice. For me that transcends his tendency to trip over rhythms and occasionally fall back on stupid rhymes, offenses which I feel are not unjustly pointed out but still somewhat overstated.
That's fair. I consider him more of an overall songwriter than a pure rap artist (which is a credit to him) so I view it kind of differently. Like I'd group him with Stevie Wonder or Prince before someone like Danny Brown, not that he's nearly on the level of the former two. I don't know that Kanye could do a song with no hook, for example. It's just not his bag. Rapping is a skill that is so near and dear to my heart that I really dig it when people are spectacular at it and I wind up being a hard judge on those who aren't.
why do people keep on using this absolutely horrid autotune gimmick - pukesing they call it? it was a bad idea when Cher did it almost 20 years ago, it hasn't improved since.
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