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Post subject: Re: Production errors / glitches / mistakes
Posted: Sun January 20, 2019 5:36 pm
Broken Tamborine
Joined: Wed November 06, 2013 9:16 pm Posts: 431
spike wrote:
Blaine Ryan wrote:
I feel like Neil Young's Tonight's the Night probably has a bunch of these, but I'd have to listen to it again to pick out specific examples.
i'd say this is the case for any neil with the horse record
I mentioned that one in particular because Neil and the band were famously indulging in a lot of drugs and alcohol throughout the recording process. And the songs are very rough -- moreso than usual.
I don't know if there are actually any mistakes (as I said, I'd have to listen again), or if you'd even call them mistakes since that's kind of part of the spirit of the record, but yeah.
Post subject: Re: Production errors / glitches / mistakes
Posted: Sun January 20, 2019 7:11 pm
The Master
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am Posts: 28081
Blaine Ryan wrote:
spike wrote:
Blaine Ryan wrote:
I feel like Neil Young's Tonight's the Night probably has a bunch of these, but I'd have to listen to it again to pick out specific examples.
i'd say this is the case for any neil with the horse record
I mentioned that one in particular because Neil and the band were famously indulging in a lot of drugs and alcohol throughout the recording process. And the songs are very rough -- moreso than usual.
I don't know if there are actually any mistakes (as I said, I'd have to listen again), or if you'd even call them mistakes since that's kind of part of the spirit of the record, but yeah.
I feel like Neil Young's Tonight's the Night probably has a bunch of these, but I'd have to listen to it again to pick out specific examples.
i'd say this is the case for any neil with the horse record
I mentioned that one in particular because Neil and the band were famously indulging in a lot of drugs and alcohol throughout the recording process. And the songs are very rough -- moreso than usual.
I don't know if there are actually any mistakes (as I said, I'd have to listen again), or if you'd even call them mistakes since that's kind of part of the spirit of the record, but yeah.
The band assembled for the album was known as The Santa Monica Flyers. It consisted of Young, Ben Keith, Nils Lofgren, and the Crazy Horse rhythm section of Billy Talbot and Ralph Molina. One track as stated above was taken from recordings of an earlier tour with Crazy Horse, and another from an earlier session with his band for Harvest, The Stray Gators.
Post subject: Re: Production errors / glitches / mistakes
Posted: Mon January 21, 2019 12:21 am
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm Posts: 32244 Location: Buenos Aires
A performance error: the Elvis Costello & The Imposters song "Go Away" features two drummers playing at the same time, Pete Thomas and his daughter Tennessee Thomas (from the bands The Like and Nice as Fuck). At 3:40, one of the drummers jumps into the chorus early while the other holds the verse groove, creating a cool little awkward moment of forward momentum before correcting itself after a few measures
Post subject: Re: Production errors / glitches / mistakes
Posted: Mon January 21, 2019 12:36 am
The Master
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am Posts: 28081
Strat wrote:
The band assembled for the album was known as The Santa Monica Flyers. It consisted of Young, Ben Keith, Nils Lofgren, and the Crazy Horse rhythm section of Billy Talbot and Ralph Molina. One track as stated above was taken from recordings of an earlier tour with Crazy Horse, and another from an earlier session with his band for Harvest, The Stray Gators.
it has the core horse rhythm section and's about a horse member and roadie dying of drugs. it's a horse album.
The band assembled for the album was known as The Santa Monica Flyers. It consisted of Young, Ben Keith, Nils Lofgren, and the Crazy Horse rhythm section of Billy Talbot and Ralph Molina. One track as stated above was taken from recordings of an earlier tour with Crazy Horse, and another from an earlier session with his band for Harvest, The Stray Gators.
it has the core horse rhythm section and's about a horse member and roadie dying of drugs. it's a horse album.
Post subject: Re: Production errors / glitches / mistakes
Posted: Mon January 21, 2019 5:38 am
A Return To Form
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:17 am Posts: 160
theplatypus wrote:
I just lined up the first chorus against the final repeat of the chorus (where the slow-down supposedly takes place) and the tempos are virtually identical. I think this story is a myth, or at least exaggerated
Scratch that, I think there actually is a tiny bit of a difference, but damn is it ever subtle
It IS super subtle, and I didn't realize just how subtle until after I posted about it. The only reason I ever knew about it is because Peter Buck had said something about it in an interview, and I think in my mind I must have tricked my memory into thinking it was more noticeable.
Post subject: Re: Production errors / glitches / mistakes
Posted: Wed January 23, 2019 10:07 pm
what on earth am I talking about
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am Posts: 35441
Well then so is the ‘mistake’ 1234 at the start of brain of j.. There’s probably few rare occasdions of genuine mistakes that were missed, on any album. They’d mostly be things the band and producer decided to leave on.
Post subject: Re: Production errors / glitches / mistakes
Posted: Wed January 23, 2019 11:15 pm
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm Posts: 32244 Location: Buenos Aires
The way I see it, there are a few different things that could go in this thread:
- Performance mistakes that don't get corrected due to time or budget constraints (or just go unnoticed), such as Wease's Steely Dan example - "Happy accidents" that the band + producer decide to leave in (like Morello's guitar picking up that Korean radio station in the OP) - Production glitches (sloppy edits, autotune errors, random digital beeps and stuff like squeaky kick drums, etc)
The recurring theme is that they're accidental, even if the band has decided to leave them in after the fact. Both the "duh-nuhnuhnuh" at the start of "Can't Keep" and the "12341234!" at the start of "Brain of J" sound deliberate to me
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