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 Post subject: Re: Rage Against The Machine
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Whoa. Just listened to a few tracks each from EE and BOLA, and something else jumped out at me that I had never noticed before: the stereo spread on the drums is super narrow. Toms and cymbals all in the middle of the mix, rather than off to the sides. Allows the bass guitar FX to feel larger, and then they have Morello’s multi-tracked guitars bookending they mixes on the left and right.

Pretty atypical choices here, but it definitely contributes to the band sounding like a small, tight powder keg, rather than a massive wall of sound.


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 Post subject: Re: Rage Against The Machine
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Evil Empire is hands down one of the best sounding albums I’ve ever heard


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The toms on Tire Me (1:02) really open things up too. Such smart mixing choices: keep the drums really narrow and tight, then open it up when you want the song to sound huge.


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Evil Empire is hands down one of the best sounding albums I’ve ever heard

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tragabigzanda wrote:
Whoa. Just listened to a few tracks each from EE and BOLA, and something else jumped out at me that I had never noticed before: the stereo spread on the drums is super narrow. Toms and cymbals all in the middle of the mix, rather than off to the sides. Allows the bass guitar FX to feel larger, and then they have Morello’s multi-tracked guitars bookending they mixes on the left and right.

Pretty atypical choices here, but it definitely contributes to the band sounding like a small, right powder keg, rather than a massive wall of sound.


when i saw prophets of rage a couple years ago it was a tiny venue and i was like 20 feet away on morello's side and could see his sound guy right there - basically the Xth member of the band. him and morello were very tight, a lot of looks and little chatter and stuff. it sounded so good. a lot of knowledge going on between those two

they played like 8 rage songs. my calves and neck were toast the next day

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1. Rage Against the Machine
2. Renegades
3. Evil Empire
4. Battle of Los Angeles

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Sleep Now in the Fire feels particularly relevant right now. Listened to it this morning

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I'm going to say something very unpopular.



1. Rage Against the Machine
2. Renegades
3. Evil Empire
4. Battle of Los Angeles


Thats not unpopular, thats just offensive.

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VinylGuy wrote:
B wrote:
I'm going to say something very unpopular.



1. Rage Against the Machine
2. Renegades
3. Evil Empire
4. Battle of Los Angeles


Thats not unpopular, thats just offensive.


RATM came out when I was hating the Machine more than I've ever hated the Machine in my life. I listened to that album until I could rap the whole album a Capella. It was intertwined with the meat of my brain.

I got subsequently more comfortable with the Machine as time went on. No matter what they did, they could never hit me the same way.

Renegades pushed up, b/c that's just a fucking fun album.

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For me it's:

EE
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I could see myself swapping the first two if the mood struck me, but BoLA is clearly the worst of the three.


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B wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
B wrote:
I'm going to say something very unpopular.



1. Rage Against the Machine
2. Renegades
3. Evil Empire
4. Battle of Los Angeles


Thats not unpopular, thats just offensive.


RATM came out when I was hating the Machine more than I've ever hated the Machine in my life. I listened to that album until I could rap the whole album a Capella. It was intertwined with the meat of my brain.

I got subsequently more comfortable with the Machine as time went on. No matter what they did, they could never hit me the same way.

Renegades pushed up, b/c that's just a fucking fun album.


there is no explanation for the atrocity of your ranking.

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VinylGuy wrote:
B wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
B wrote:
I'm going to say something very unpopular.



1. Rage Against the Machine
2. Renegades
3. Evil Empire
4. Battle of Los Angeles


Thats not unpopular, thats just offensive.


RATM came out when I was hating the Machine more than I've ever hated the Machine in my life. I listened to that album until I could rap the whole album a Capella. It was intertwined with the meat of my brain.

I got subsequently more comfortable with the Machine as time went on. No matter what they did, they could never hit me the same way.

Renegades pushed up, b/c that's just a fucking fun album.


there is no explanation for the atrocity of your ranking.

All he'd have to do is put Renegades at the bottom, and nobody would bother him.


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