is Rage over again?

very RATM that zack does not attend and we are left guessing whether the band still exists

will always be this way

treasure the moments we have/had

To be fair with Zach nobody but Tom showed up. I could see maybe Brad there but there was no way that Timmy C was going to be there

I'm not on X, but I bet the comments were along the lines of "stop being political and just make music"...

trying to imagine someone who'd make that comment actually listening to one RATM song, and not having their smooth brain blow away by all the *checks notes* political messages.

seems a lot of the US fans never got the political side of RATM

To be fair - the politics are kinda subtle. I mean at the end of Know Your Enemy it's hard to tell if he's advocating or condeming the 'American Dream', and Wake Up - thought that was just some cool shit they did for The Wachowskis to put in their movie

What's the dirt on why this band can't stay together? I was never clear on it.

I think because Tom Morello kept farting on stage.

Basically because they existed for like a couple months before they got scooped up by Epic and fast-tracked to major label celebrity. They toured like crazy, got involved in all sorts of grassroots political stuff, and never had a second to grow up or evolve in between the studios, the tour buses, and the protest lines. Seems like they still have the egos of 25-year olds, and haven't ever fully reconciled their ideals with the major label cash they were willing to take.

Original breakup:

Guitarist Tom Morello said in an interview, "There was so much squabbling over everything. And I mean everything. We would even have fist fights over whether our T-shirts should be mauve or camouflaged! It was ridiculous. We were patently political, internally combustible. It was ugly for a long time." De la Rocha's departure prompted the official breakup of the band, though its other three members in Morello, Tim Commerford and Brad Wilk would stay together in the group's next iteration Audioslave

I also thought the zapatistas were just a bunch of Nike´s fans

Really difficult to miss.

lol I love when Anders brings the hammer

Wilk just confirmed the band is done.

Damn these guys are so weird

Do we blame Zach or Tom?

mm im more in the Zack is responsable team. The guy seems to be over with RATM and him coming back felt always more like a cash grab for him than the others. Plus, he doesnt tour or play music at all.

I personally don't think it's much of a cash grab, more like a creative crisis of conscience. Trent Reznor is on record as saying that his session with Zach were very difficult, to the effect of "He didn't want to sound anything like RATM, but any time we moved away from that sound he got uncomfortable." He worked with a bunch of different producers and could never come to bring anything to market. I have a hunch he's torn between his creative instincts vs. the sound that made him famous, and probably yeah there's a capitalist component of that which is also difficult for him to reconcile with...

Whereas with Tom I feel like he's just not terribly interesting outside of RATM, yet his ego thinks he's amazing.

I could buy that but Zach did two reunion tours with the band already, so the cash element is there. Maybe touring got too difficult for him i dont know.
I totally agree that he seems to be creatively done. He has been for a long time..,.20 years at least?

i think Zack is a basket case

his dad was a lunatic

and it traumatized him

and he lives in a very erratic headspace

which does not translate well to conventional touring or recording reliability