Not necessarily true. I have an NTT friend teaching in the NYC art school (across three campuses: CUNY, Columbia, and NYU) and he averaged way more per credit hour that what they pay in MT.

As a general rule, public teachers make more in MA, NY, and CA than just about anywhere else.

As for me, I’ve just got an undergraduate degree and I’m teaching NTT at the state uni.

Wasn't this conversation originally about buying a house? Obviously you get paid more in NYC per credit hour, but per credit hour is probably not the best metric to use.

I can only really speak to creative writing, but NYC has a glut of overqualified people who want to teach and I see no reason to believe that would be different in theater. You might be able to cobble together some last minute classes, but for something resembling a stable career with live-able money, you would almost certainly need to relocate--otherwise you're always in competition with every asshole who has an off-Broadway play to their name.

Seemed to me like buying a full-time residence is off the table, because a career in theater is the more realistic priority. But I’ll leave that to epilogue to define.

If buying a house is completely off the table I don't know why Joey would try to pivot to academia given that he seems to have an otherwise stable career.

Joe have you give any thought to the Bloomingdale’s Executive Training Program

I looked into that and they require pants to be worn at all times. Which is a dealbreaker. I'm fine with a button-up and tie, by I need to let the downstairs breath, you know?

Best part of academia. Was shocked that Trag didn't list it as a bennie earlier.

If some asshole would just fucking publish a thing I write and then sell it to a prestige TV channel like HBO, I wouldn't be in this pickle!

Isn’t self-publishing a thing now?

Can't think of a self published to HBO show example, but there's always 50 Shades.

I'm THIS close to self-publishing, wease, my man. THIS close.

Remember how much LV loved those movies?

Honestly no

Oh.

Well, he really loved those movies.

Fuck. Do it bro.

There's this weird thing in me that really wants to go the traditional publishing route. But as that gets further and further away, I've been reading up on self-publishing and I think it might honestly be the way to go. Not necessarily to get my shit turned into a TV show. But just to get it out there, finally.

It’s far more likely to be turned into a TV show or movie or something if it’s out there. Do it.

I don't mean to be rude but I don't think that's true.

Which is not to say, don't self-publish, but a work is actually far more likely to be adapted as a TV show/movie if it unpublished with agent representation.