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Hard to imagine they pull this off, but I'm still (after everything else mind you) surprised they'd do this. Hard to comprehend the optics of just about the entire nursing home industry collapsing, and 1.4 million low income elderly people left to hope they have family who can and will see to them.
Hard to imagine they pull this off, but I'm still (after everything else mind you) surprised they'd do this. Hard to comprehend the optics of just about the entire nursing home industry collapsing, and 1.4 million low income elderly people left to hope they have family who can and will see to them.
Isn’t that Medicare?
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Hard to imagine they pull this off, but I'm still (after everything else mind you) surprised they'd do this. Hard to comprehend the optics of just about the entire nursing home industry collapsing, and 1.4 million low income elderly people left to hope they have family who can and will see to them.
Isn’t that Medicare?
Medicaid represents around 1/3 of all nursing home funding, through a combination of subsidized support for low income patients and other provisions. 63% of people in nursing homes have Medicaid as their primary payer.
Medicare doesn't cover unless you have ongoing problems requiring treatment (in other words, if you can't feed yourself, bathe yourself, or get off the pot without help, that doesn't count). It is meant to prioritize "get better" care...there is a limit to how long the benefit is triggered for.
Hard to imagine they pull this off, but I'm still (after everything else mind you) surprised they'd do this. Hard to comprehend the optics of just about the entire nursing home industry collapsing, and 1.4 million low income elderly people left to hope they have family who can and will see to them.
Isn’t that Medicare?
Medicaid represents around 1/3 of all nursing home funding, through a combination of subsidized support for low income patients and other provisions. 63% of people in nursing homes have Medicaid as their primary payer.
Medicare doesn't cover unless you have ongoing problems requiring treatment (in other words, if you can't feed yourself, bathe yourself, or get off the pot without help, that doesn't count). It is meant to prioritize "get better" care...there is a limit to how long the benefit is triggered for.
Interesting. I had no idea the system worked like that.
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It's also pretty much their entire base at this point: the old white people. How bad are their internal projections for 2018 that they're just going to burn the whole thing down at this point?
It's also pretty much their entire base at this point: the old white people. How bad are their internal projections for 2018 that they're just going to burn the whole thing down at this point?
In order to try to correct my embarrassing lack of knowledge on this I did a bit more reading, seems like they would be cutting the ACA-driven expansion of medicaid that occurred a few years ago. Kaiser explains here:
The nursing home thing might be a bit of scare tactic given the division of medicaid funding and the make up of the people made eligible after the ACA was enacted (mostly white, working age adults without kids). Where this could be devastating is the home-care worker industry and the disabled and those who support them. Couldn't we just get Raytheon to build a nursing home instead of a frigate?
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Hasn't Mitch McConnell stated that entitlement reform is a non-starter in the Senate?
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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:03 pm Posts: 9359 Location: Washington State
I'm going to be super cynical and say it's because the payday for lobbying is now higher than the payday for taking bribes. I mean, er, campaign donations.
Not sure where to best put this, but I believe two other states have similar cases ongoing. If they produce similar results, is expect groups all over the country to capitalize on the precedent.
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