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PostPosted: Mon October 04, 2021 11:31 am 
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Imagine what the media response would have been if opposing political activists had chased AOC and filmed her in the bathroom instead.





... or any woman for that matter.

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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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They seriously followed her into the bathroom with a camera? :shake:

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Yes I'm very disappointed. So very disappointed.

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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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Chasing women into the bathroom and filming them in there is not OK guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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As much as I shit on AOC (who is a loathsome fraud), I find people like Sinema and Manchin and Romney and McCain to be a thousand times worse. Death to false centrists!

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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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Chasing women into the bathroom and filming them in there is not OK guys.

She’s a public official working at a public university. And yet it’s fair to assume she’s highly inaccessible for someone like this student: any email to her congressional address would just get a form response, and I’d wager that if she booked her university office hours, she’s get 30 seconds into her spiel before being stonewalled.

My hat’s off to any kid that gets off the couch and holds their elected officials accountable.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
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Chasing women into the bathroom and filming them in there is not OK guys.

She’s a public official working at a public university. And yet it’s fair to assume she’s highly inaccessible for someone like this student: any email to her congressional address would just get a form response, and I’d wager that if she booked her university office hours, she’s get 30 seconds into her spiel before being stonewalled.

My hat’s off to any kid that gets off the couch and holds their elected officials accountable.



Let's say it was a public school teacher and anti-maskers chased her into a bathroom and filmed themselves yelling at her while she hides in there. Still hat's off?

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Let's say it was a concentration camp guard. Still hat's off?

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If she holds public office at a city-wide scale or higher, then yes absolutely

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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?

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One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?

That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?

That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?


Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about

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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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How can you guys get hung up on this trivial shit when William Shatner is about to go into space?


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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?

That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?


Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about

I genuinely hope my daughter grows up to be someone who holds her elected officials accountable using reasonable means. Cameras and some straight talk are very reasonable in my view, even if it's in a bathroom.

To compare this Sinema scenario with Ashli Babbitt getting killed by a cop acting in self-defense is pretty ludicrous.


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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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tragabigzanda wrote:
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One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?

That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?


Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about

I genuinely hope my daughter grows up to be someone who holds her elected officials accountable using reasonable means. Cameras and some straight talk are very reasonable in my view, even if it's in a bathroom.

To compare this Sinema scenario with Ashli Babbitt getting killed by a cop acting in self-defense is pretty ludicrous.



I comparing it to your claim that Sinema should have felt safe because one of the "activists" who was chasing and harassing her was female and had a camera.

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Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
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One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?

That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?


Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about

I genuinely hope my daughter grows up to be someone who holds her elected officials accountable using reasonable means. Cameras and some straight talk are very reasonable in my view, even if it's in a bathroom.

To compare this Sinema scenario with Ashli Babbitt getting killed by a cop acting in self-defense is pretty ludicrous.



I comparing it to your claim that Sinema should have felt safe because one of the "activists" who was chasing and harassing her was female and had a camera.

I didn't say she should feel safe, I said she could reasonably assume that she wouldn't be raped.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
One more try…

Pretend for a second you are woman who holds elected office. Just doing your job when a group of men comes into your place of work and starts yelling at you cause they don’t like your politics. They’ve got cameras out and are filming. No security guards around, just them and you. So you do the smart thing, find a way to get out the situation. You get up and walk down the hall towards the women’s room. They follow. They yell. They film. Now you enter the bathroom to hide. They follow you in, cameras rolling. What might a woman be thinking in that situation?

That the cameras and female protestor would probably keep her safe from the rape you seem to be implying?


Because cameras and female protesters like Ashley Babbit kept everyone safe on 06.Jan or during the BLM riots? And yes, intentionally creating a situation where the woman is vulnerable and fears for her safety is exactly what those people did to Senator Sinema and I hope that never happens to a woman you know or care about

I genuinely hope my daughter grows up to be someone who holds her elected officials accountable using reasonable means. Cameras and some straight talk are very reasonable in my view, even if it's in a bathroom.

To compare this Sinema scenario with Ashli Babbitt getting killed by a cop acting in self-defense is pretty ludicrous.



I comparing it to your claim that Sinema should have felt safe because one of the "activists" who was chasing and harassing her was female and had a camera.

I didn't say she should feel safe, I said she could reasonably assume that she wouldn't be raped.



We will just have to agree to disagree about what the acceptable level of violence against women is once they are elected.

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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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point to the violence in the Sinema video


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 Post subject: Re: Congress
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Level of violence depends on the situation. Absolutes here are ridiculous.

Tar and feathering is probably fine for a first offense. No need to graduate straight to guillotines yet.

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