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 Post subject: Re: Non-Trump Political Scandals..
PostPosted: Mon October 28, 2019 6:11 pm 
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Green Habit wrote:
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That Katie Hill really knows how to party.
So it sounds like the lesson here is that you can revenge porn a sitting member of Congress into resigning. That's a really, really bad lesson, especially when combined with the typical double standards applied to women and non-traditional sexuality.

Having sex with people who report to her should be something she resigns over. Due to the power imbalance, her partners could not give informed consent.
The revenge porn aspect of the story is separate, despicable and should be addressed via legal means.

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surfndestroy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
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That Katie Hill really knows how to party.
So it sounds like the lesson here is that you can revenge porn a sitting member of Congress into resigning. That's a really, really bad lesson, especially when combined with the typical double standards applied to women and non-traditional sexuality.
Having sex with people who report to her should be something she resigns over. Due to the power imbalance, her partners could not give informed consent.
The revenge porn aspect of the story is separate, despicable and should be addressed via legal means.
Unethical, sure, no disagreement there. But I'm leery of imposing a strict norm of resignation over this for elected office, considering that voters have the opportunity to have their say in both primary and general elections, and where there may counter-aggravating factors at play.


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Katie Hill is a lunatic, early. Nobody should feel sorry for her.

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Katie Hill is a lunatic, early. Nobody should feel sorry for her.



She’s awful, but basic human dignity rules still apply

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This is the problem with such cartoonish corruption at the top; other than the gross revenge porn part of this, this just seems boring and quaint in comparison.


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This is the problem with such cartoonish corruption at the top; other than the gross revenge porn part of this, this just seems boring and quaint in comparison.

The other problem is that some of Trump’s policies that might actually be good for the country never gets fair shake. I admit they’re few and far between, but they do exist.


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Before anyone asks: trade wars. The idea of renegotiating trade deals that in some cases go back to WW2 to gain broader access to foreign markets makes good sense. Unfortunately he’s taking a sledge hammer to the problem rather than a scalpel, and he has no fucking clue how to sell it to people.


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awful?


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The idea that someone can simultaneously be victim and offender is gonna be difficult for progressives to grasp here.

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Is anybody arguing that she wasn’t engaged in unethical behavior? Or come out in opposition to her resignation?

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Is anybody arguing that she wasn’t engaged in unethical behavior? Or come out in opposition to her resignation?


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Unethical, sure, no disagreement there. But I'm leery of imposing a strict norm of resignation over this for elected office, considering that voters have the opportunity to have their say in both primary and general elections, and where there may counter-aggravating factors at play.

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So renowned leftist Green Habit, then? That’s the one?

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Now that we have him: I got the tar. Anyone bring the feathers?


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I was really disappointed in how the guys on Pod Save America glossed over how incredibly inappropriate her sleezy behavior with staff is

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