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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
PostPosted: Wed August 29, 2018 8:50 pm 
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Here's turnout for the same primary event in 2014:
Republican: 949,144
Democrat: 837,796

So turnout was up significantly for both parties. In 2014 both primaries were non-competitive for governor. Honestly I'm surprised Republican turnout was as high at it was yesterday since that primary was also non-competitive. Florida is a closed primary state, so all the independents/NPA couldn't participate, so if McP's number holds that would bode well for the Democrats in November.

Back to Trag, I'm skeptical that Gillum (or any candidate) was the cause of the spike in turnout. Maybe I'm being overly simple and if McP has a better suggestion I'd certainly welcome it, but I think the biggest factor in yesterday's high turnout on both sides is Trump.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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oh i don't think it's Gillum so much as i think it's David Hogg & Emma Gonzalez


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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tragabigzanda wrote:
oh i don't think it's Gillum so much as i think it's David Hogg & Emma Gonzalez

Yeah, that mattered, too though I'd put Parkland as a distant second behind Trump as a prime driver of high turnout.

A mother of one of the victims won a school board seat and a father of a victim came in second, last I saw it was possibly going to be close enough to cause a run off election. So it mattered in Broward. Hard to say how much it mattered in the rest of the state, though. Broward also put a measure on the ballot to increase teacher pay and increase school security, so I'm sure a lot of people in education turned out yesterday, although most of them probably would have voted anyway.

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tragabigzanda wrote:
oh i don't think it's Gillum so much as i think it's David Hogg & Emma Gonzalez

Yeah, that mattered, too though I'd put Parkland as a distant second behind Trump as a prime driver of high turnout.

A mother of one of the victims won a school board seat and a father of a victim came in second, last I saw it was possibly going to be close enough to cause a run off election. So it mattered in Broward. Hard to say how much it mattered in the rest of the state, though. Broward also put a measure on the ballot to increase teacher pay and increase school security, so I'm sure a lot of people in education turned out yesterday, although most of them probably would have voted anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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Donald Trump was completely unelectable in the minds of most people right up until he was elected to the highest office in the country. His opponent was the boring, technocratic policy wonk that many on the center left are still pushing for. Granted, Hillary had a history/persona that was impossible to overcome, but the last few Dem nominees in FL fit that profile too. So did Al Gore & John Kerry. They all lost. This is a big country with relatively low voter turnout - as unfortunate as it may be to say, people need to be inspired to vote. 2008 Obama was a more progressive type and Dems did well when he was on the ballot. He won FL too. They lost (big time) when the rest of the party was on its own. I absolutely want the center right and center left to be the actual managers. Make them the heads of cabinets, institutions, etc.... They will find ways to make something work or not. But whether we’re talking about the president, a governor, congressperson... a huge part of their job is to galvanize people. This newer progressive wing is still very young, and so are the people who support it, but rather than chalk this up to millennials who don’t understand what they’re doing, I think about the fact that the Reagan/Clinton era was established by a boomer generation which was about the same age as the millennial generation is now. And if anything this new progressive wing seems more in line with the values of the post WW2 period than some new radical way of thought, at least economically. None of this is really new, conceptually, just needs to be modernized. The boomer era did well and solved many of the problems of a stagnant new deal era. But it’s created its own problems too. A new generation will repeat the cycle. Just my $.02


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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Guys, North Carolina's screwing this up so hard that we may not send Representatives to the House on time.

https://chapelboro.com/news/state-news/ ... tisan-bias

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Guys, North Carolina's screwing this up so hard that we may not send Representatives to the House on time.

https://chapelboro.com/news/state-news/ ... tisan-bias
Once Kanavaugh gets in, SCOTUS is going to tell the lower courts to never meddle with partisan gerrymandering again. :(


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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Green Habit wrote:
B wrote:
Guys, North Carolina's screwing this up so hard that we may not send Representatives to the House on time.

https://chapelboro.com/news/state-news/ ... tisan-bias
Once Kanavaugh gets in, SCOTUS is going to tell the lower courts to never meddle with partisan gerrymandering again. :(


I'm looking forward to slapping down district courts ability to implement nation-wide injunctions. :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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simple schoolboy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
B wrote:
Guys, North Carolina's screwing this up so hard that we may not send Representatives to the House on time.

https://chapelboro.com/news/state-news/ ... tisan-bias
Once Kanavaugh gets in, SCOTUS is going to tell the lower courts to never meddle with partisan gerrymandering again. :(


I'm looking forward to slapping down district courts ability to implement nation-wide injunctions. :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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96583UP wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
B wrote:
Guys, North Carolina's screwing this up so hard that we may not send Representatives to the House on time.

https://chapelboro.com/news/state-news/ ... tisan-bias
Once Kanavaugh gets in, SCOTUS is going to tell the lower courts to never meddle with partisan gerrymandering again. :(


I'm looking forward to slapping down district courts ability to implement nation-wide injunctions. :thumbsup:


because you are a soviet errand boy


I thought we were past Russian bots, and now everyone's a Chinese bot. Did I miss a memo?


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huge upsets for democratic incumbents in Boston yesterday.


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simple schoolboy wrote:
96583UP wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
B wrote:
Guys, North Carolina's screwing this up so hard that we may not send Representatives to the House on time.

https://chapelboro.com/news/state-news/ ... tisan-bias
Once Kanavaugh gets in, SCOTUS is going to tell the lower courts to never meddle with partisan gerrymandering again. :(


I'm looking forward to slapping down district courts ability to implement nation-wide injunctions. :thumbsup:


because you are a soviet errand boy


I thought we were past Russian bots, and now everyone's a Chinese bot. Did I miss a memo?


China, if you're listening ...

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Midterms
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My electrician, a really friendly guy, just appeared in a campaign ad for Greg "The Bodyslam" Gianforte. Do I need to find a new electrician now? Serious question.


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Nobody who thinks there is a correct answer to that question is right.

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perhaps, but that doesn't solve my moral dilemma. i actually need some work done by the end of the month!


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Just bake him a gay wedding cake, wear a pussy hat, and see if he gets triggered.

If he does (and I shouldn’t have to say this but you haven’t been at any of the libtard deep state meetings lately) kill him.

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But not with a gun.

Never with a gun.

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maybe he has a gluten allergy i can leverage


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