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Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Tue February 01, 2022 9:39 pm
Mind Your Tanners
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You would have to be absolutely deranged to get a graduate degree in philosophy these days.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Tue February 01, 2022 11:01 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
simple schoolboy wrote:
Mickey wrote:
You would have to be absolutely deranged to get a graduate degree in philosophy these days.
Do you think his lecture section was entertaining or nah?
I imagine they were like reading a Burt Reynolds post.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Tue February 01, 2022 11:07 pm
Mind Your Tanners
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Duke is a very fine racist institution, I'm sure this isn't their fault.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 1:48 am
Future Drummer
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am Posts: 2837 Location: Connecticut
Mickey wrote:
You would have to be absolutely deranged to get a graduate degree in philosophy these days.
This isn't directed at you, but I went through a "podcast phase" a few years ago. The ones that stuck were the ones that viewed today's politics from an historical perspective, and then the ones that lamented the lack of good philosophers in the last couple hundred years.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 2:45 am
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Rob wrote:
Mickey wrote:
You would have to be absolutely deranged to get a graduate degree in philosophy these days.
This isn't directed at you, but I went through a "podcast phase" a few years ago. The ones that stuck were the ones that viewed today's politics from an historical perspective, and then the ones that lamented the lack of good philosophers in the last couple hundred years.
things get bogged down with language over the last hundred years or so, but we're coming out of it I think. There are a lot of great ones in that period though.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 3:07 am
Future Drummer
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am Posts: 2837 Location: Connecticut
The dorkiest thing to do in this sub-forum is quote EV lyrics, but there is something going on in the lyrics to Present Tense... a generic question that is meant for philosopher types. The song is meant for the rest of us, but what he's asking... It doesn't really seem like this modern age is conducive for spiritual type philosophy.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 4:49 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Rob wrote:
The dorkiest thing to do in this sub-forum is quote EV lyrics, but there is something going on in the lyrics to Present Tense... a generic question that is meant for philosopher types. The song is meant for the rest of us, but what he's asking... It doesn't really seem like this modern age is conducive for spiritual type philosophy.
There is a pervasive sort of scientism or physicalism in modern society that dismisses anything that isn't included in the "scientific" model of existence, ignorant to the fact that science is by design and necessity limited to certain aspects of being, or to a certain way of observing reality. It can't account for immediate, subjective experience, for example (even in soft sciences like psychology). Excluding this experience can result in many useful discoveries and tools, but too many confuse the usefulness of science for an ideology or Truth that can give us a complete model of existence and a morality to live our lives by.
Ed is a doofus, but he is grasping at the existential there, without relying on any fixed ideas (like bullshit notions of the "power of love" or whatever he usually does) to guide him. It's a cool song.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 6:27 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Rob wrote:
Mickey wrote:
You would have to be absolutely deranged to get a graduate degree in philosophy these days.
This isn't directed at you, but I went through a "podcast phase" a few years ago. The ones that stuck were the ones that viewed today's politics from an historical perspective, and then the ones that lamented the lack of good philosophers in the last couple hundred years.
I should be clear here--I am exclusively talking about the academic discipline of philosophy, the types of research and pedagogy that are reproduced within this institutional form. US philosophy departments have by and large either been left behind by the kinds of pursuits that used to occupy Philosophy but have new institutional framings (i.e. a good deal of philosophy of mind questions are now examined in neuroscience) or they jettisoned areas of research in the analytical philosophy turn in the late 20th century, which have since been picked up and pursued (with great success!) in other realms (much of continental philosophy now lives in literary studies, comparative literature, or cultural studies departments, other threads have been picked up by political science, anthropology, or religious studies). So philosophy as an institutional academic pursuit is, to my eye, pretty bankrupt, asking increasingly meaningless questions about an increasingly small field of knowledge. But philosophy as a broader discourse is doing just fine, if you know where to look,
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
Posted: Sat February 05, 2022 6:31 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Like, for instance, what Burt's talking about--the critique of the scientific or empiricist model of knowledge. That *is* being critiqued (and it should be!), it's been critiqued for decades, but that critique is being made by sociologists like Bruno Latour or political scientists like Sylvia Wynter, neither of whom reside(d) in capital-P Philosophy departments.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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