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 Post subject: Re: Pedantic Struggles: The All Encompassing Philosophy Thre
PostPosted: Thu June 21, 2018 9:48 pm 
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Are meaning and purpose the same thing? It seems that, while I don't think my life has any purpose, it does have meaning.


I would say purpose leads to meaning (even if the concept of a life is entirely a biochemical delusion)

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BurtReynolds wrote:
Are meaning and purpose the same thing? It seems that, while I don't think my life has any purpose, it does have meaning.


I would say purpose leads to meaning (even if the concept of a life is entirely a biochemical delusion)


I was thinking the opposite: that determining the meaning lays the groundwork for finding one's purpose.

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BurtReynolds wrote:
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Are meaning and purpose the same thing? It seems that, while I don't think my life has any purpose, it does have meaning.


I would say purpose leads to meaning (even if the concept of a life is entirely a biochemical delusion)


I was thinking the opposite: that determining the meaning lays the groundwork for finding one's purpose.


Probably depends on how broadly you are applying the terms.

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Is it possible for two people, or two groups of people, to have conflicting, incompatible interests and both be morally justified? Or does one person or group always have the moral high ground?

I think it's the first one.

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Is it possible for two people, or two groups of people, to have conflicting, incompatible interests and both be morally justified? Or does one person or group always have the moral high ground?

I think it's the first one.


Can you give an example? The existence of Israel?

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kinda interesting bit about how the workers of the world didn't unite, but the the rich, globalist classes are. 21:48

Lizard brained genius is a pretty good description of Trump I think. His success is more due to instinct and personality than conscious thought.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/how-social-science-might-be-misunderstanding-conservatives.html

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(not a Jordan Perterson video.)

I don't think the examples hold up. Coulter is an ideologue, but also a identitarian (EDIT: actually I guess that checks out). And Rand was only a philosopher in so far as developing a philosophy to prove out her preconceived notions. Maybe I dunno.

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