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Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 3:56 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am Posts: 2836 Location: Connecticut
Bi_3 wrote:
Let's say the CDC is appropriate agency and scope it done to just equity. What exactly would they do to create equitable outcomes under these emergency powers?
I assume this is what they are trying to find out? It's a directive to find/develop solutions. You guys are panning this before they've even had a chance to try. Even if they were able to make some modest improvements, wouldn't that be worth it? Maybe they come back in a year with stupid ideas, who knows.
Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 4:43 pm
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5593
They tried to address equity in vaccine distribution through special access codes that they sent out to community groups, but its not clear whether that improved access for disadvanted groups or if whitey was more effective at sharing those codes.
I'm curious who generated and distributed those codes because it was pretty opaque.
Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 5:04 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14251
simple schoolboy wrote:
They tried to address equity in vaccine distribution through special access codes that they sent out to community groups, but its not clear whether that improved access for disadvanted groups or if whitey was more effective at sharing those codes.
I'm curious who generated and distributed those codes because it was pretty opaque.
That was more statistical triage, right? They were attempting to reduce disparities in death rates by denying vaccine access to (and thus increasing the death rate in) predominantly white zip codes.
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Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 5:32 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Rob wrote:
Are you guys saying the CDC shouldn't try to develop a strategy to address racial gaps in health outcomes? Should any agency? Did they say they will end racism or did they point out it's also a health issue, and they - as a health focused agency - want to try to do something about it?
Basically, did you guys waste half a page virtue signaling to each other, or did I miss something?
Oh come on dude, it's way more than half a page.
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Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 5:37 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22531 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
They tried to address equity in vaccine distribution through special access codes that they sent out to community groups, but its not clear whether that improved access for disadvanted groups or if whitey was more effective at sharing those codes.
I'm curious who generated and distributed those codes because it was pretty opaque.
That was more statistical triage, right? They were attempting to reduce disparities in death rates by denying vaccine access to (and thus increasing the death rate in) predominantly white zip codes.
My experience in NC has been that when affluent communities couldn't get vaccines, they scheduled appointments in poorer communities and took their vaccine. People in the poor communities never stood a chance b/c they can't sit on hold for 4 hours waiting for an appointment.
And apparently, we're doing better than most states at addressing disparities in vaccine distribution.
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Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 6:09 pm
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5593
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
They tried to address equity in vaccine distribution through special access codes that they sent out to community groups, but its not clear whether that improved access for disadvanted groups or if whitey was more effective at sharing those codes.
I'm curious who generated and distributed those codes because it was pretty opaque.
That was more statistical triage, right? They were attempting to reduce disparities in death rates by denying vaccine access to (and thus increasing the death rate in) predominantly white zip codes.
That may have been done as well, but there were non-unique codes that were shared by word of mouth that opened up apppointment slots that were otherwise blocked off. I know someone who was eligible that had no appointments available until they used the code. It seemed like 80%+ of appointments were earmarked for those with an access code.
If you were in a tier that otherwise was inelligible, those codes allowed you to schedule an appointment.
Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 6:11 pm
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5593
Rob wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Let's say the CDC is appropriate agency and scope it done to just equity. What exactly would they do to create equitable outcomes under these emergency powers?
I assume this is what they are trying to find out? It's a directive to find/develop solutions. You guys are panning this before they've even had a chance to try. Even if they were able to make some modest improvements, wouldn't that be worth it? Maybe they come back in a year with stupid ideas, who knows.
The CDC already had to walk back their proposal to distribute vaccines "equitably" that was expected to increase the overall death rate. Not super excited about what they come out with next.
Let's say the CDC is appropriate agency and scope it done to just equity. What exactly would they do to create equitable outcomes under these emergency powers?
I assume this is what they are trying to find out? It's a directive to find/develop solutions. You guys are panning this before they've even had a chance to try. Even if they were able to make some modest improvements, wouldn't that be worth it? Maybe they come back in a year with stupid ideas, who knows.
The CDC already had to walk back their proposal to distribute vaccines "equitably" that was expected to increase the overall death rate. Not super excited about what they come out with next.
Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 6:35 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14251
verb_to_trust wrote:
I don't see the point in worrying social vaccine justice when in a month or two supply will far exceed demand
Depends on how you view those efforts. If you see their failure as being treated like a beta test for future 'equitable resource allocation' planning, then it's fair to be concerned.
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Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 6:40 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am Posts: 2836 Location: Connecticut
Bi_3 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
I don't see the point in worrying social vaccine justice when in a month or two supply will far exceed demand
Depends on how you view those efforts. If you see their failure as being treated like a beta test for future 'equitable resource allocation' planning, then it's fair to be concerned.
I don't think I've ever hurled "white privilege" at anyone; it's not good to use that as a weapon, imo, but verb's comment did remind me of it (it's also the attitude I've taken for my own white ass, since I really don't want to spend an hour on hold right now).
Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 7:52 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22531 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
verb_to_trust wrote:
B wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
B wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
I don't see the point in worrying social vaccine justice when in a month or two supply will far exceed demand
That's 30,000 - 60,000 dead Americans.
Yes, but what color?
Way darker than the general population.
That North Carolina sun really works it's magic!
This reads like you wanted to say something racist, realized that you shouldn't, but you'd already hit reply, so you posted something incoherent instead.
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I don't see the point in worrying social vaccine justice when in a month or two supply will far exceed demand
That's 30,000 - 60,000 dead Americans.
Yes, but what color?
Way darker than the general population.
That North Carolina sun really works it's magic!
This reads like you wanted to say something racist, realized that you shouldn't, but you'd already hit reply, so you posted something incoherent instead.
Not everyone views 100 percent of the things they encounter in life through the prism of race, B
Post subject: Re: Adventures in Babysitting: The Catch-All Anti-SJW Thread
Posted: Mon April 12, 2021 10:47 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22531 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
verb_to_trust wrote:
B wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
B wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
B wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
I don't see the point in worrying social vaccine justice when in a month or two supply will far exceed demand
That's 30,000 - 60,000 dead Americans.
Yes, but what color?
Way darker than the general population.
That North Carolina sun really works it's magic!
This reads like you wanted to say something racist, realized that you shouldn't, but you'd already hit reply, so you posted something incoherent instead.
Not everyone views 100 percent of the things they encounter in life through the prism of race, B
I agree.
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