Fri October 13, 2017 4:30 am
Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:So much for healthcare.
Why? you think his executive order is actually going to do anything? Or did i miss something?
President Trump will scrap subsidies to health insurance companies that help pay out-of-pocket costs of low-income people, the White House said late Thursday.
Fri October 13, 2017 5:00 am
Fri October 13, 2017 5:49 am
Strat wrote:meatwad wrote:McParadigm wrote:So much for healthcare.
I’m just a nihilist on all this shit anymore. Burn the whole fucking country down, IDGAF. This is what we all deserve, whether you voted for him or not. This is what America deserves for being a bunch of ignorant, self-centered fucktards.
This is dumb because a majority of the voting population didnt vote for this.
This comment above is a fuckign cop out.
America sucks on so many levels, i agree but...
Fri October 13, 2017 1:11 pm
simple schoolboy wrote:For those not paying attention, the self employed were largely fucked by the ACA. This provides relief for them.
Fri October 13, 2017 1:17 pm
McParadigm wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:For those not paying attention, the self employed were largely fucked by the ACA. This provides relief for them.
Self employed who earn more than 400% the poverty line (which would be $45k or so) and have no preexisting conditions, specifically. All three of those are required for ACA to not have benefitted you at all.
Now it's just all poor people with preexisting conditions who are fucked.
Fri October 13, 2017 1:30 pm
wease wrote:McParadigm wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:For those not paying attention, the self employed were largely fucked by the ACA. This provides relief for them.
Self employed who earn more than 400% the poverty line (which would be $45k or so) and have no preexisting conditions, specifically. All three of those are required for ACA to not have benefitted you at all.
Now it's just all poor people with preexisting conditions who are fucked.
Will it make our premiums go up?
Fri October 13, 2017 1:36 pm
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Fri October 13, 2017 3:53 pm
WaPo, to summarize, wrote:This is a about as forceful a blow as the president can deliver to Obamacare. And it will likely fulfill his own prophecy, that Obamacare is, indeed, failing.
Most health-policy experts agree that if these subsidies are taken away without a change in how much lower-income people pay for their health insurance, insurance markets would implode, forcing insurance companies to leave Obamacare exchanges, causing Obamacare itself to implode.
“It's an order of magnitude a larger assault on the integrity of the individual health insurance market,” said Paul Ginsburg, a health policy expert and director of the USC Brookings-Schaeffer Initiative.
Now, insurers can back out of the exchanges. If the individual insurance market collapses, the millions of Americans could lose their insurance and many others will see their premiums rise or even double.
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Fri October 13, 2017 4:24 pm
bune wrote:So what was the over/under on Trump starting a Merry Christmas culture war?
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Fri October 13, 2017 5:29 pm
Strat wrote:People are smart enough to realize and understand that Trump made Obamacare worse and failing? Right? Guys? People will realize it was Trump that fucked them over? right?please?
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Fri October 13, 2017 6:37 pm
bune wrote:So what was the over/under on Trump starting a Merry Christmas culture war?
Fri October 13, 2017 6:41 pm
Simple Torture wrote:bune wrote:So what was the over/under on Trump starting a Merry Christmas culture war?
I have never been more certain of anything in my entire fucking life.