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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 4:25 pm

E.H. Ruddock wrote:This Jerusalem thing is worse than many know or care to know. The Palestinians will now have unlimited backing from Iran and others.


The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 5:13 pm

Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:This Jerusalem thing is worse than many know or care to know. The Palestinians will now have unlimited backing from Iran and others.


The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

because the arab community always has a rational, even handed way of disagreeing with the beliefs and actions of other countries... Especially the US, yeah?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 6:03 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 6:06 pm

McParadigm wrote:

I heard this in real time and i almost swerved my car into oncoming traffic.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 6:23 pm

I can't...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 6:27 pm

Bravo

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 7:14 pm

So this new Flynn info was known by the Mueller team for months, and they asked Cummings to wait until today to share it.

It's not hard at all to imagine why this might have been necessary for the investigation, but Republicans are going to throw such a disingenuous whining fit about hiding things from the congressional investigations.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 7:19 pm

Stickman wrote:Bravo

Ha ha wow

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 7:28 pm

malice wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:This Jerusalem thing is worse than many know or care to know. The Palestinians will now have unlimited backing from Iran and others.


The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

because the arab community always has a rational, even handed way of disagreeing with the beliefs and actions of other countries... Especially the US, yeah?


I read this as the airbnb community.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 7:32 pm

:haha:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 7:46 pm

Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:This Jerusalem thing is worse than many know or care to know. The Palestinians will now have unlimited backing from Iran and others.


The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

**starts fire in entryway**

"I'm not sure what this will change except for the extra burning and screaming we're about to do."

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 7:49 pm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 7:52 pm

Trump issues demand that the saudis lift the yemen blockade.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 8:32 pm

malice wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:This Jerusalem thing is worse than many know or care to know. The Palestinians will now have unlimited backing from Iran and others.


The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

because the arab community always has a rational, even handed way of disagreeing with the beliefs and actions of other countries... Especially the US, yeah?


So this makes Iran more likely to hit Israel? Or suddenly the Saudis and Iran will be bros? Not sure what you are going for here.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 9:28 pm

It's weird that we live in a world where a minor political disruption effort blew up everything everywhere, and that it mostly happened because Donald Trump is an egomaniac with dementia and so is America.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 9:37 pm

McParadigm wrote:It's weird that we live in a world where a minor political disruption effort blew up everything everywhere, and that it mostly happened because Donald Trump is an egomaniac with dementia and so is America.

Yes. DT is America. A truth the left and the right are failing to admit to the necessary degree. We are wholly sick.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 10:07 pm

Bi_3 wrote:The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

The U.S. is incapable of severing ties with Saudi Arabia ($$$$) despite all the evidence that it fuels Wahhabism and ISIS, so Trump did the next best/worst thing and doubled down on our relationship.

It'll probably go something like this... Iran loses its shit and strikes Israel. Saudis swoop in and get to come across as "the good guys."

Saudis get to
a. crush those Shia heathens
b. see a weakened Israel
c. continue to fund terrorism

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 10:22 pm

run2death wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

The U.S. is incapable of severing ties with Saudi Arabia ($$$$) despite all the evidence that it fuels Wahhabism and ISIS, so Trump did the next best/worst thing and doubled down on our relationship.

It'll probably go something like this... Iran loses its shit and strikes Israel. Saudis swoop in and get to come across as "the good guys."

Saudis get to
a. crush those Shia heathens
b. see a weakened Israel
c. continue to fund terrorism


run2death, or anyone else, do you have a good book recommendation about the Saudi's and Wahhabism?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 10:26 pm

run2death wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:The US/Israel/Saudi vs Iran/Shia thing has been fighting proxy wars for years. I'm not sure how this really shifts things besides unnecessarily pissing of the arab community.

The U.S. is incapable of severing ties with Saudi Arabia ($$$$) despite all the evidence that it fuels Wahhabism and ISIS, so Trump did the next best/worst thing and doubled down on our relationship.

It'll probably go something like this... Iran loses its shit and strikes Israel. Saudis swoop in and get to come across as "the good guys."

Saudis get to
a. crush those Shia heathens
b. see a weakened Israel
c. continue to fund terrorism


For all we know this was to avert Israel starting a war with Lebanon, which seemed pretty imminent over the last two weeks.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Wed December 06, 2017 10:29 pm

McParadigm wrote:


So the WH is saying this slurred speech was because "his mouth was dry." Did he have a stroke or something?
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