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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Fri January 18, 2019 1:24 pm 
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He hasn’t tweeted in 10 hours

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McParadigm wrote:
He hasn’t tweeted in 10 hours


Of all of his potential opening salvos today, I did not anticipate blatant, unadulterated Islamaphobia:


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Of all of his potential opening salvos today, I did not anticipate blatant, unadulterated Islamophobia

Stark difference from the usual “fake news/all lies/never happened.”

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Can’t wait to watch Mitt Romney try the Flake maneuver on this, after his oh so serious oped.

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Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.

But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?

I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.


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Hogan Gidley was on Fox News just now and refused to flatly deny the claims, even when the Fox News host pointed out that his zig zagging was not in any way a denial.

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Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.

But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?

I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.

I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?

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Hogan Gidley was on Fox News just now and refused to flatly deny the claims, even when the Fox News host pointed out that his zig zagging was not in any way a denial.

There is no way that's a real name.

*googles*

You know, I should have know better from the party of Reince Priebus.


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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
run2death wrote:
Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.

But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?

I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.

I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?

They did largely vote for Trump, but from what I've read, most of them would rather see better roads, a few more agents and better technology than a better/bigger wall.


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run2death wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
run2death wrote:
Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.

But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?

I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.

I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?

They did largely vote for Trump, but from what I've read, most of them would rather see better roads, a few more agents and better technology than a better/bigger wall.


Well then maybe they shouldn't have voted for the guy whose campaign slogan was "Build that wall!" Sending them my thoughts and prayers.

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How disappointed will Pearl Jam be if the Trump presidency ends (resignation/impeachment/choking on a Filet O Fish) before they can release their angry Trump record?



We're kind of 35 years or so late for Red Dawn the Musical No?


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run2death wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
run2death wrote:
Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.

But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?

I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.

I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?

They did largely vote for Trump, but from what I've read, most of them would rather see better roads, a few more agents and better technology than a better/bigger wall.


Well then maybe they shouldn't have voted for the guy whose campaign slogan was "Build that wall!" Sending them my thoughts and prayers.
Shit like this is why I will never understand the undecideds. They're so fickle and dumb.


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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
run2death wrote:
Man, the GOP really loves their Arizona "Border Rancher" story lines.

But isn't Bush's Secure Fence Act actually to blame for the increase of crossings on private land?

I've read a couple of stories that say the new fences in AZ border towns basically pushed crossers out into the ranches.

I've wondered about this. Theoretically the "wall" will be built closer to towns and populated areas first, right? So at least in the short term, you'll see more people crossing in more remote ranch areas, right? I'm not too familiar with where a fence/wall currently exists. How do ranchers along the border actually feel about all of this?

That was the intention through Bush W and Obama. There’s a couple of great podcasts from Radiolab about this exact plan of deterrence. I’m on my phone but I’ll try to find the links.
https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/border-trilogy-part-1

Radiolab Border Trilogy part 1 is the one. All three are great listens.


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