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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Thu July 05, 2018 10:45 pm 
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I can’t believe this is even a discussion. HE LITERALLY SAID HE RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THIS. It fucking worked. People were pissed, they wouldn’t let him not be aware of that every second of his life, and now he’s gone. This is a win. Now we’re gonna wring our hands over the approach! Jesus Christ!

But what if they shoot the next guy!? :arrow:


It has literally already happened

Are we equating public speech protest with gun violence now? As if one were the logical, inevitable conclusion of the other? I look forward to reading your many previous posts on the offensiveness and danger posed by the verbal aggressions Trump supporters direct at reporters during their...I guess, hate rallies?

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Yeah, yelling at someone until they leave a restaurant is the same as shooting them.

The moral righteousness which would convince someone to break the social norms around shouting at someone they don't know in a restaurant because of their job doesn't seem that different to that which would also drive them to physically hurt them, it's just a matter of degree of exactly how nuts they are.


You could apply this logic to virtually every situation.


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McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I can’t believe this is even a discussion. HE LITERALLY SAID HE RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THIS. It fucking worked. People were pissed, they wouldn’t let him not be aware of that every second of his life, and now he’s gone. This is a win. Now we’re gonna wring our hands over the approach! Jesus Christ!

But what if they shoot the next guy!? :arrow:


It has literally already happened

Are we equating public speech protest with gun violence now? As if one were the logical, inevitable conclusion of the other? I look forward to reading your many previous posts on the offensiveness and danger posed by the verbal aggressions Trump supporters direct at reporters during their...I guess, hate rallies?


You are better than this argument.

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Thu July 05, 2018 11:22 pm 
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Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I can’t believe this is even a discussion. HE LITERALLY SAID HE RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THIS. It fucking worked. People were pissed, they wouldn’t let him not be aware of that every second of his life, and now he’s gone. This is a win. Now we’re gonna wring our hands over the approach! Jesus Christ!

But what if they shoot the next guy!? :arrow:


It has literally already happened

Are we equating public speech protest with gun violence now? As if one were the logical, inevitable conclusion of the other? I look forward to reading your many previous posts on the offensiveness and danger posed by the verbal aggressions Trump supporters direct at reporters during their...I guess, hate rallies?


You are better than this argument.

I do understand the source of worry. Every day lately we get new stories about people screaming at (perceived) immigrants, or hungrily trying to intimidate or harm people of color. And sometimes those stories do feature physical violence. So there is a real and demonstrated path to be wary of.

But that path is between the willingness to make threats of physical violence for intimidation purposes and the willingness to act on those threats. There absolutely is a step in between calmly telling an official that you oppose their actions and thinking it’s ok to scream in an “others” face, and there is no evidence that a desire to communicate with those in power must lead down a road to the screaming and threatening.

There is, however, plenty of evidence that the normalizing of screaming at and intimidating an other can lead to violence, and so I’m baffled at how anyone viewing the world through an untinted lens could see a mother speaking to AND THEN LEAVING an official to their meal as one tenth the warning sign than an arena of people shrieking “fake news” and using language that lumps all immigrants in with gang members is.

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President Trump, speaking at a rally in Montana, challenged Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren to prove her Native American heritage.

"We will say, 'I will give you $1 million to her your charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you are an Indian and let's see what she does," the President told the crowd. "I have a feeling she will say no."

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President Trump, speaking at a rally in Montana, challenged Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren to prove her Native American heritage.

"We will say, 'I will give you $1 million to her your charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you are an Indian and let's see what she does," the President told the crowd. "I have a feeling she will say no."


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Scott Pruitt had a soundproof phone booth installed in his office closet and drove around in a bulletproof government car

clearly whatever this guy was up to was far more sinister than the standard fox in the henhouse oil-friendly administration stuff

he might be giving Paul Manafort a run for his money on the corrupt-o-meter when this is all said and done

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Alan D’s expanded Trump Universe movie is gonna be one of the darkest

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They are still chanting “lock her up” at the rallies. Civility worrywarts must be mortified.

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I don't think we have too much to worry about uncivil civilians. Corrupt politicians will be ok.

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I wonder if he’ll sign my copy of Frampton Comes Alive.

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i wonder if trump will accept kim jong uns autographed version of, its the end of the world as we know it...

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Trump has to be the most easily misled person to rule a country ever.

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wease wrote:
Trump has to be the most easily misled person to rule a country ever.


Maybe? I wonder if it's just that he has never had to face actual consequences for his actions before and so he's thinks it's all fun and games and thus is incapable of understanding what his bullshit is doing to human civilization.

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Bi_3 wrote:
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Trump has to be the most easily misled person to rule a country ever.


Maybe? I wonder if it's just that he has never had to face actual consequences for his actions before and so he's thinks it's all fun and games and thus is incapable of understanding what his bullshit is doing to human civilization.

Both?

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Either way, having not gotten any kind of demonstrable denuclearization deal out of them, and having misled people about it back home, I have zero doubt that he could be pulled right back into war pose by NK just continuing to be NK. And every Republican who has said “he says he got a deal, let’s give it a chance,“ will go along with him blaming Kim for failing to live up to a promise that was never even made.

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One thing Donald Trump (and 20% of Americans) will definitely do is go to war to protect the ego of Donald Trump.

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