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Sure, all of that is possible, but more so I meant that his presidency has given form to previously uncollected or sublimated political sentiments that will now shape the future of both parties. There will be no going "back to normal," for better or for worse and no matter how much mainstream politicians want to do so. I think yesterday is a testament to that.
The second is that blaming this on Donald Trump isn’t just too simplistic, it’s whistling past the graveyard of our norms. Of course, he egged on his crowd to go up to the Capitol and be loud and irritating. But he didn’t tell them to break down doors and crash the gates, and he didn’t need to. Blaming this on Trump assumes this type of attitude will go away when Trump himself does. That’s way too easy — it’s wishful thinking. The iconoclasm of the right is a real development, and it is here to stay. You’ll wish for the old man in the tricorn hat waving a Cato Constitution when you see the new right blasting statues with graffiti.
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This same reality applies to the conservative movement. The obvious result of yesterday’s conflagration will be a feeble attempt at a purge by the Mitt Romneys, Liz Cheneys, and Adam Kinzingers (ha!) of the GOP. This will fail because their constituency is not just outnumbered, it is utterly dominated by the populist iconoclasts. A party of the right that rejects the mob of people who spent their hard-earned, working-class money to drive to Washington, D.C., and wave a flag as deplorables will never win, or deserve to, any more than a party of the left could reject naming something Black Lives Matter plaza.
who knows maybe there will be another big terrorist event from foreigners for Americans to rally around together
that could harness the anger of the mass of slobs
MAHEA
Make America Hate Externally Again
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Sure, all of that is possible, but more so I meant that his presidency has given form to previously uncollected or sublimated political sentiments that will now shape the future of both parties. There will be no going "back to normal," for better or for worse and no matter how much mainstream politicians want to do so. I think yesterday is a testament to that.
The second is that blaming this on Donald Trump isn’t just too simplistic, it’s whistling past the graveyard of our norms. Of course, he egged on his crowd to go up to the Capitol and be loud and irritating. But he didn’t tell them to break down doors and crash the gates, and he didn’t need to. Blaming this on Trump assumes this type of attitude will go away when Trump himself does. That’s way too easy — it’s wishful thinking. The iconoclasm of the right is a real development, and it is here to stay. You’ll wish for the old man in the tricorn hat waving a Cato Constitution when you see the new right blasting statues with graffiti.
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This same reality applies to the conservative movement. The obvious result of yesterday’s conflagration will be a feeble attempt at a purge by the Mitt Romneys, Liz Cheneys, and Adam Kinzingers (ha!) of the GOP. This will fail because their constituency is not just outnumbered, it is utterly dominated by the populist iconoclasts. A party of the right that rejects the mob of people who spent their hard-earned, working-class money to drive to Washington, D.C., and wave a flag as deplorables will never win, or deserve to, any more than a party of the left could reject naming something Black Lives Matter plaza.
who knows maybe there will be another big terrorist event from foreigners for Americans to rally around together
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri January 08, 2021 1:52 am
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am Posts: 22301
McParadigm wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Edit: responding to VG
100%. Can't Deny Me will forever be viewed as a failed experiment, and he would never muster enough support to extensively tour the South moving forward.
Im not sure Can't Deny Me will be viewed as a failed experiment at all. He has a rabid fanbase, what happened yesterday is a proof of that.
He eroded Pearl Jam enough to strip them of national power, and elevated drummers within the band that will continue to limit its musical maneuverability and repel stone's ideas. Beyond the white whale song requests, his “rabid fanbase” is just a group of idiots that go to all his concerts and buy his shitty merch
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Sure, all of that is possible, but more so I meant that his presidency has given form to previously uncollected or sublimated political sentiments that will now shape the future of both parties. There will be no going "back to normal," for better or for worse and no matter how much mainstream politicians want to do so. I think yesterday is a testament to that.
The second is that blaming this on Donald Trump isn’t just too simplistic, it’s whistling past the graveyard of our norms. Of course, he egged on his crowd to go up to the Capitol and be loud and irritating. But he didn’t tell them to break down doors and crash the gates, and he didn’t need to. Blaming this on Trump assumes this type of attitude will go away when Trump himself does. That’s way too easy — it’s wishful thinking. The iconoclasm of the right is a real development, and it is here to stay. You’ll wish for the old man in the tricorn hat waving a Cato Constitution when you see the new right blasting statues with graffiti.
Quote:
This same reality applies to the conservative movement. The obvious result of yesterday’s conflagration will be a feeble attempt at a purge by the Mitt Romneys, Liz Cheneys, and Adam Kinzingers (ha!) of the GOP. This will fail because their constituency is not just outnumbered, it is utterly dominated by the populist iconoclasts. A party of the right that rejects the mob of people who spent their hard-earned, working-class money to drive to Washington, D.C., and wave a flag as deplorables will never win, or deserve to, any more than a party of the left could reject naming something Black Lives Matter plaza.
who knows maybe there will be another big terrorist event from foreigners for Americans to rally around together
that could harness the anger of the mass of slobs
MAHEA
Make America Hate Externally Again
Yeah Iran is fucked.
nah, they have nukes
needs to be a country that can't really defend themselves that well
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri January 08, 2021 2:00 am
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
psychobain wrote:
So Brazil (president and others) is officially the only country in the world that supported Trump's action (and the rioters)
Thats a new low for us
Bolsonaro Just Said that the same thing may happen here on 2022
Yeah extremely going to happen.
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri January 08, 2021 2:26 am
The Master
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am Posts: 28101
Mickey wrote:
spike wrote:
Mickey wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Edit: responding to VG
100%. His presidency will forever be viewed as a failed experiment, and he would never muster enough support to take on the gop establishment moving forward.
Im not sure his presidency will be viewed as a failed experiment at all. He has a rabid fanbase, what happened yesterday is a proof of that.
Yes, believing Trump is "over" is extremely wishful thinking.
yep. if the GOP doesn't want him, he'll just run as an independent. or more likely, start his own party.
Sure, all of that is possible, but more so I meant that his presidency has given form to previously uncollected or sublimated political sentiments that will now shape the future of both parties. There will be no going "back to normal," for better or for worse and no matter how much mainstream politicians want to do so. I think yesterday is a testament to that.
Agreed Trumpism has woven itself in, I was responding more so to the comments that his political career was over.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri January 08, 2021 2:28 am
Major Dude
Joined: Sat January 05, 2013 1:57 pm Posts: 32435 Location: Where everybody knows your name
McParadigm wrote:
Peeps wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
lol give me a break
She said no such thing
You don’t think Erik Prince‘s sister is upset by senseless violence?
Fuck her. And fuck all these republicans who are just beside themselves over what happened and are standing up to him. They’ve had four years to do the right thing and have chosen to ignore that EVERY time. They wait until he’s got one foot out the door, then grow a spine. What he did yesterday was absolutely nothing different than what he did all thru his term as president. Hell, even before. So fuck every one of those spineless hypocrites
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