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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 3:17 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14256
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Strat wrote:
what'd I miss?
Ive been having a discussion with a couple of my friends as to which is worse. The Trump Years or the Bush Years?
Late Bush / early Obama is probably the worst post-9/11 timeframe for the US. Trump is embarrassing, but hasnt been all that bad for us if you look beyond twitter.
It's not necessarily the now I'm worried about.
I agree the future will tell. But his ideas aren't actually unpopular, they are just impolite:
I don't support him and didn't and would never vote for him, but some level of objectivity is needed where we can separate the words from the speaker.
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 3:33 pm
See you in another life, brother
Joined: Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm Posts: 6652
Trump is extremely lucky he inherited a strong economy. This is part of the Democrats-being-bad-at-PR thing that the economy was so vastly improved when Obama left office from when he entered and yet that didn't seem to benefit them politically very much.
_________________ "I want to see the whole picture--as nearly as I can. I don't want to put on the blinders of 'good and bad,' and limit my vision."-- In Dubious Battle
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 5:03 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am Posts: 21841
JuanHamm wrote:
Strat wrote:
what'd I miss?
Ive been having a discussion with a couple of my friends as to which is worse. The Trump Years or the Bush Years?
What's the argument for Trump being worse?
I assume it includes some combination of Puerto Rico, separated families, first provoking and then befriending North Korea without any deescalation on their part, publicly defending white supremicists, helping the Saudis cover up a murder, rewriting multiple trade deals in ways that primarily serve to cut us out, publicly supporting anti-vax conspiracy theories and trying to incorporate them into policy decisions, doubling the Mara Lago fee upon his election and then routinely giving the people who paid it administration positions, firing the FBI Director for insufficient personal loyalty, Betsy Devos, rolling back student loan protections, intentionally lying about every topic from mass voter fraud to *inventing terror attacks* whenever it served his purpose, repealing laws related to dangerous chemical, lead-based paint, and coal company waste dumping, attacking transgender rights at every angle he can think of, intentionally cultivating distrust of news organizations among a massive voter group, gutting medical research funding, mental health services, and public housing, banning departments from using the words “climate change,” or “emissions reduction,” eliminating rules requiring ISPs to ask costumer permission before selling their private data, stopping all funding to the UN Family Planning Agency, firing half the scientists on the EPA advisory board and replacing them with lobbyists, and wanting our warships to go back to goddamn steam.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 5:11 pm
See you in another life, brother
Joined: Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm Posts: 6652
McParadigm wrote:
JuanHamm wrote:
Strat wrote:
what'd I miss?
Ive been having a discussion with a couple of my friends as to which is worse. The Trump Years or the Bush Years?
What's the argument for Trump being worse?
I assume it includes some combination of Puerto Rico, separated families, first provoking and then befriending North Korea without any deescalation on their part, publicly defending white supremicists, helping the Saudis cover up a murder, rewriting multiple trade deals in ways that primarily serve to cut us out, publicly supporting anti-vax conspiracy theories and trying to incorporate them into policy decisions, doubling the Mara Lago fee upon his election and then routinely giving the people who paid it administration positions, firing the FBI Director for insufficient personal loyalty, Betsy Devos, rolling back student loan protections, intentionally lying about every topic from mass voter fraud to *inventing terror attacks* whenever it served his purpose, repealing laws related to dangerous chemical, lead-based paint, and coal company waste dumping, attacking transgender rights at every angle he can think of, intentionally cultivating distrust of news organizations among a massive voter group, gutting medical research funding, mental health services, and public housing, banning departments from using the words “climate change,” or “emissions reduction,” eliminating rules requiring ISPs to ask costumer permission before selling their private data, stopping all funding to the UN Family Planning Agency, firing half the scientists on the EPA advisory board and replacing them with lobbyists, and wanting our warships to go back to goddamn steam.
And this is just off the top of his head and doesn't even mention him being a Russian asset!
_________________ "I want to see the whole picture--as nearly as I can. I don't want to put on the blinders of 'good and bad,' and limit my vision."-- In Dubious Battle
Ive been having a discussion with a couple of my friends as to which is worse. The Trump Years or the Bush Years?
What's the argument for Trump being worse?
I assume it includes some combination of Puerto Rico, separated families, first provoking and then befriending North Korea without any deescalation on their part, publicly defending white supremicists, helping the Saudis cover up a murder, rewriting multiple trade deals in ways that primarily serve to cut us out, publicly supporting anti-vax conspiracy theories and trying to incorporate them into policy decisions, doubling the Mara Lago fee upon his election and then routinely giving the people who paid it administration positions, firing the FBI Director for insufficient personal loyalty, Betsy Devos, rolling back student loan protections, intentionally lying about every topic from mass voter fraud to *inventing terror attacks* whenever it served his purpose, repealing laws related to dangerous chemical, lead-based paint, and coal company waste dumping, attacking transgender rights at every angle he can think of, intentionally cultivating distrust of news organizations among a massive voter group, gutting medical research funding, mental health services, and public housing, banning departments from using the words “climate change,” or “emissions reduction,” eliminating rules requiring ISPs to ask costumer permission before selling their private data, stopping all funding to the UN Family Planning Agency, firing half the scientists on the EPA advisory board and replacing them with lobbyists, and wanting our warships to go back to goddamn steam.
And this is just off the top of his head and doesn't even mention him being a Russian asset!
And the emboldening of dictators around the world to utilize the phrase "fake news" so as to murder journalists and crackdown on opposition. A man who is so morally bankrupt yet 40% of the country supports and idolizes him.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 5:26 pm
what on earth am I talking about
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am Posts: 35480
He brought a family who had someone murdered by an illegal immigrant to the SOTU. Seriously??? That’s fucked up
Quote:
Debra Bissell, Heather Armstrong, and Madison Armstrong: the daughter, granddaughter, and great-granddaughter of a couple from Reno, Nevada, who were murdered in their home in January 2019. A 19-year-old undocumented immigrant who had reportedly worked for the couple as a landscaper was charged in the couple’s murder; he was also charged with other homicides in the area. Trump had tweeted about this case, claiming it’s a reason why he needs his “powerful” wall.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 3:01 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14256
B wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
How was the game? Which team won?
For the 243rd year in a row, the white team.
Happy Black History Month!
It all evens out
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 5:13 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:17 pm Posts: 3404 Location: right there
McParadigm wrote:
JuanHamm wrote:
Strat wrote:
what'd I miss?
Ive been having a discussion with a couple of my friends as to which is worse. The Trump Years or the Bush Years?
What's the argument for Trump being worse?
I assume it includes some combination of Puerto Rico, separated families, first provoking and then befriending North Korea without any deescalation on their part, publicly defending white supremicists, helping the Saudis cover up a murder, rewriting multiple trade deals in ways that primarily serve to cut us out, publicly supporting anti-vax conspiracy theories and trying to incorporate them into policy decisions, doubling the Mara Lago fee upon his election and then routinely giving the people who paid it administration positions, firing the FBI Director for insufficient personal loyalty, Betsy Devos, rolling back student loan protections, intentionally lying about every topic from mass voter fraud to *inventing terror attacks* whenever it served his purpose, repealing laws related to dangerous chemical, lead-based paint, and coal company waste dumping, attacking transgender rights at every angle he can think of, intentionally cultivating distrust of news organizations among a massive voter group, gutting medical research funding, mental health services, and public housing, banning departments from using the words “climate change,” or “emissions reduction,” eliminating rules requiring ISPs to ask costumer permission before selling their private data, stopping all funding to the UN Family Planning Agency, firing half the scientists on the EPA advisory board and replacing them with lobbyists, and wanting our warships to go back to goddamn steam.
Post of the year.
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bada wrote:
Cause the two girls on the board voted for the rapey song.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 08, 2019 12:55 am
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39820 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
doone wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
JuanHamm wrote:
Strat wrote:
what'd I miss?
Ive been having a discussion with a couple of my friends as to which is worse. The Trump Years or the Bush Years?
What's the argument for Trump being worse?
I assume it includes some combination of Puerto Rico, separated families, first provoking and then befriending North Korea without any deescalation on their part, publicly defending white supremicists, helping the Saudis cover up a murder, rewriting multiple trade deals in ways that primarily serve to cut us out, publicly supporting anti-vax conspiracy theories and trying to incorporate them into policy decisions, doubling the Mara Lago fee upon his election and then routinely giving the people who paid it administration positions, firing the FBI Director for insufficient personal loyalty, Betsy Devos, rolling back student loan protections, intentionally lying about every topic from mass voter fraud to *inventing terror attacks* whenever it served his purpose, repealing laws related to dangerous chemical, lead-based paint, and coal company waste dumping, attacking transgender rights at every angle he can think of, intentionally cultivating distrust of news organizations among a massive voter group, gutting medical research funding, mental health services, and public housing, banning departments from using the words “climate change,” or “emissions reduction,” eliminating rules requiring ISPs to ask costumer permission before selling their private data, stopping all funding to the UN Family Planning Agency, firing half the scientists on the EPA advisory board and replacing them with lobbyists, and wanting our warships to go back to goddamn steam.
Post of the year.
Because of its insight into the obsessive mind of its writer?
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