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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Tue July 03, 2018 3:10 pm 
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A world in which consumer goods are very expensive but made locally seems, to me, very much preferable to one where they're very cheap but made elsewhere.

This is a confounding opinion.

A world in which the best producer for a given good or service was paid a fair price relative to their economy, and that the safety and well-being of their workers could be guaranteed regardless of their nationality, would be the ideal.


Those things tend to be while locally produced consumer goods are more expensive.

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Not a lot of good for the president in polling right now. 49 to 47%, Americans believe the president is flat-out racist, and


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labor market is tight and birth rates are low need more immigrant labor

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Totally baffled at the willingness of so many Republicans to meet with Russia IN Russia during the Fourth, and to let Moscow humiliate them on television in the process.

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That's not at all an intentionally misleading tweet.

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So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?

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So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?


Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.

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So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?


Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.

Get an H-1B visa for being a nude model, etc.


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Stripping citizenship from already naturalized citizens because of "irregularities" is a dramatic step (and slippery slope) for any government to take.

I mean, hasn't history taught us anything. Jesus fucking Christ.


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once they're declared non citizens, it's a lot easier to do whatever the fuck you want with them


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So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?


Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.

Get an H-1B visa for being a nude model, etc.


Stripping citizenship

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I'm assuming we'll ship all the new noncitizens to Madagascar.


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Well, to be fair, immigrants commit an insufficient number of crimes and tend to appreciate what few opportunities are allotted them. What’s more unAmerican than that?

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The firms that profit from the immigration enforcement agency not only have political support from the White House; many of their former lobbyists and consultants now occupy the upper echelons of the Trump administration.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/05/don ... ntractors/


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Honestly, this is bigger story than it's being played.

It's downright deplorable and goes against every good thing about America.

People should be really upset.


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Bi_3 wrote:
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So, Trump wants to take citizenship away from people who cheated to get it. How, exactly does one cheat their way into citizenship?


Identity theft, lying on the application, etc.


We need a special system for this? That's a federal crime, right?

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Totally baffled at the willingness of so many Republicans to meet with Russia IN Russia during the Fourth, and to let Moscow humiliate them on television in the process.

This is what I was trying to say

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Totally baffled at the willingness of so many Republicans to meet with Russia IN Russia during the Fourth, and to let Moscow humiliate them on television in the process.

This is what I was trying to say

And hopefully this fact was not lost on anyone:

"In December, two Republicans canceled a planned trip to Russia after Moscow denied a visa to Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (N.H.), an outspoken critic of Russia. This time, only Republicans were in attendance, including Sen. John Thune (S.D.), the third-ranking Republican in the Senate." -WaPo

It is curious to me (but maybe someone else could explain sense out of it) that none of the senators are on the foreign relations committee, but rather the group was mostly reps. sitting on appropriations. Is this because the conversation was about sanctions? Are we planning on a spending bill that will pay the russian government?


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