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run2death · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:09 pm

Yeah, protests and civil disobedience has never worked in America. Good call!

Birds in Hell · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm **Posts:** 15074

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Or it's treating people with good faith, and as human beings who are separable from their jobs and political beliefs?

Jesus christ, you dorks.

Good faith for Scott Pruitt? LOL. Frankly, I don’t care about Scott Pruitt as a person when he occupies the position he occupies. Some things are more important than being nice. You dork!

I have zero idea who that it is, but it seems very dangerous to allow any degree of acceptance towards harassing public officials when they're "off the clock" - cases in point: Jo Cox, Steve Scalise, Gabrielle Giffords, etc.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:12 pm

Yeah, yelling at someone until they leave a restaurant is the same as shooting them.

B · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:13 pm

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

B wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Honestly, that sounds like typical Democrat pussy bullshit. Let's not attack the bad guys for fear that they might attack the good guys one day.

Yeah. I’m over this ineffectual “civility” shit. Fuck these people. Let them know we’re not gonna let them live their lives like they’re not scum.

I don't know. I don't condemn these protesters, but there are going to be consequences to this behavior that the protesters won't be paying.

Wring your hands some more why don’t you

I'm allowed to be conflicted about a complex topic.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:14 pm

You don't forsake civil disobedience for fear of violence, you employ civil disobedience for fear of violence.

digster · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 1:10 am **Posts:** 3825

McParadigm wrote:

I would not personally partake in such a confrontation, but as a concerned witness of the suffering of the day this ranks somewhere around 8 miles south of the middle tier (which is “wrestlers who have met Jim Jordan”). If I’m going to expend 30 solid minutes of life worrying over the pain or fear of a group of others, “officials in the administration that is causing nearly all of the pain and fear” probably don’t make the cut.

When I don’t have active anxiety about children separated from their parents, I will have all manner of additional time to fret about the ability of a corrupt official to peacefully eat lunch.

Pretty much this. I don't know if I would necessarily advocate for this approach (I think I would have to consider how it was done), but taking it back a week, when after days of learning about what was happening to parents at the border, if the straw that broke the camel's back was that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was denied a table at a restaurant, I'd wonder if you may be letting your politics impact your perspective too heavily.

run2death · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:14 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:

You don't forsake civil disobedience for fear of violence, you employ civil disobedience for fear of violence.

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:14 pm

I can’t believe this is even a discussion. HE LITERALLY SAID HE RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THIS. It fucking worked. People were pissed, they wouldn’t let him not be aware of that every second of his life, and now he’s gone. This is a win. Now we’re gonna wring our hands over the approach!m? Jesus Christ!

Norris · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:15 pm

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

I can’t believe this is even a discussion. HE LITERALLY SAID HE RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THIS. It fucking worked. People were pissed, they wouldn’t let him not be aware of that every second of his life, and now he’s gone. This is a win. Now we’re gonna wring our hands over the approach! Jesus Christ!

But what if they shoot the next guy!? :arrow:

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:15 pm

B wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

B wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Honestly, that sounds like typical Democrat pussy bullshit. Let's not attack the bad guys for fear that they might attack the good guys one day.

Yeah. I’m over this ineffectual “civility” shit. Fuck these people. Let them know we’re not gonna let them live their lives like they’re not scum.

I don't know. I don't condemn these protesters, but there are going to be consequences to this behavior that the protesters won't be paying.

Wring your hands some more why don’t you

I'm allowed to be conflicted about a complex topic.

This isn’t complex!

digster · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 1:10 am **Posts:** 3825

I don't for a second think he actually resigned because of that; it just fits the picture Trump would like to paint far better than "I'm so corrupt I've become toxic."

B · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:19 pm

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

B wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

B wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Honestly, that sounds like typical Democrat pussy bullshit. Let's not attack the bad guys for fear that they might attack the good guys one day.

Yeah. I’m over this ineffectual “civility” shit. Fuck these people. Let them know we’re not gonna let them live their lives like they’re not scum.

I don't know. I don't condemn these protesters, but there are going to be consequences to this behavior that the protesters won't be paying.

Wring your hands some more why don’t you

I'm allowed to be conflicted about a complex topic.

This isn’t complex!

This has gone for 3 pages in a half hour. Clearly it is.

BurtReynolds · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:24 pm

This will all be worth it if we really get a Space Corps.

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14201

digster wrote:

I don't for a second think he actually resigned because of that; it just fits the picture Trump would like to paint far better than "I'm so corrupt I've become toxic."

Oh look, an adult who understands what’s actually happened

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14201

cutuphalfdead wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

I can’t believe this is even a discussion. HE LITERALLY SAID HE RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THIS. It fucking worked. People were pissed, they wouldn’t let him not be aware of that every second of his life, and now he’s gone. This is a win. Now we’re gonna wring our hands over the approach! Jesus Christ!

But what if they shoot the next guy!? :arrow:

It has literally already happened

Birds in Hell · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm **Posts:** 15074

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Yeah, yelling at someone until they leave a restaurant is the same as shooting them.

The moral righteousness which would convince someone to break the social norms around shouting at someone they don't know in a restaurant because of their job doesn't seem that different to that which would also drive them to physically hurt them, it's just a matter of degree of exactly how nuts they are.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:39 pm

Birds in Hell wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Yeah, yelling at someone until they leave a restaurant is the same as shooting them.

The moral righteousness which would convince someone to break the social norms around shouting at someone they don't know in a restaurant because of their job doesn't seem that different to that which would also drive them to physically hurt them, it's just a matter of degree of exactly how nuts they are.

Of course they exist on the same spectrum.

Norris · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:39 pm

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21791

Who shouted at Scott Pruitt

Norris · **Posted:** Thu July 05, 2018 10:41 pm

LV did.

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