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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:13 am 
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No wonder Barr doesn’t want to have an attorney ask him questions

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doug rr wrote:
it appears Mueller wrote an interesting letter to Barr..



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Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials.


Seems like a non-story

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Just 2 lawmakers have seen less-redacted Mueller report?

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/30/mueller-report-redacted-1295105

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This makes Mueller's team look awfully naive. They'd just investigated Donald Trump and his campaign and administration for two years; they didn't consider the possibility that a member of his administration might mislead people about the report?


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This makes Mueller's team look awfully naive. They'd just investigated Donald Trump and his campaign and administration for two years; they didn't consider the possibility that a member of his administration might mislead people about the report?

what could they have done differently?


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Bi_3 wrote:
doug rr wrote:
it appears Mueller wrote an interesting letter to Barr..



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Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials.


Seems like a non-story


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.

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BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1


Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?


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Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1


Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?


The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1


Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?


The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."


Seems like another way of saying the same thing.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1


Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?


The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."


Seems like another way of saying the same thing.


It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1


Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?


The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."


Seems like another way of saying the same thing.


It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.


I don't get why you think Barr's intentions are the only story here? The fact Mueller felt the need to write the letter is a significant story regardless of what he thinks about Barr's intention.


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Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1


Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?


The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."


Seems like another way of saying the same thing.


It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.

do you think barr did it intentionally?

i think cherry picking parts of mueller's conclusions to eliminate context and to create the impression that mueller was unequivocally exculpating trump is pretty intentional, no?


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Jesus Christ, this hearing.

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Chris_H_2 wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:

Seems like a non-story

This thread.


Read it for yourself and decide:

http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/11235 ... 31/photo/1


Mueller says Barr has confused the public by misrepresenting what the report means. That seems important, how is it a non-story?


The first part of my post wasn't quoted:

"Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials."


Seems like another way of saying the same thing.


It's implied intention that make's it different. I don't think Mueller states Barr did it intentionally, even if it's pretty obvious Barr chose language that shields Trump from shit he is clearly guilty of.

do you think barr did it intentionally?

i think cherry picking parts of mueller's conclusions to eliminate context and to create the impression that mueller was unequivocally exculpating trump is pretty intentional, no?


I do think Barr did it intentionally (as I think think Trump committed obstruction) but I didnt read it as unequivocally exculpating, it was just vague enough to cause confusion. I just dont think that's what Mueller was stating in his letter, it's what we are projecting onto it.

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Ha ha holy shit.

“We know that actions were taken which would be illegal for a Super PAC.”

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“Polling data was shared.”

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