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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 21, 2018 12:42 am
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IMO, North Korea must be giving up their missile program at this point because either:
1) China insisted (backed by threat of some crippling action) 2) CIA got to NK's hired-Ukranian scientists and/or computer systems and rendered them unusable 3) NK is now actually straight up bankrupt and cannot continue its nuke program
Wonder if China emphasized in their meeting that they don't need a missile program to retain sovereignty, just fissile material and the implicit threat of the ability to use that fissile material at some point
so NK can produce for domestic purposes while Kim gets left alone by the Int'l community and China agrees not to assassinate him for continuing to act a fool
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 21, 2018 1:08 am
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Strat wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Strat wrote:
Christ. The last few hours news included:
Sessions threatening to quit DNc Suing Trump and co. Kim Jong Un giving up his nuke program and McCabe suing Trump and Co. for defamation.
My neck hurts.
And Michael Cohen is done
The best part about all of this is.....that if Trump does end up getting the boot.....we still have to move forward with Mike Pence.
Its going to be a long few years regardless.
Pence will suck HARD for women, minorities, and LGBTQXYZ but he won't bring nuclear winter. He can be voted out and his policies can be reversed (and I don't know for sure, but I don't think he's as heartless with the environment)...
The Mike Pence Effect would be very real and very bad, but nothing compared to where our current POTUS is taking us.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 21, 2018 3:39 pm
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I've always thought the presidential line of succession was kinda weird.
I guess the idea is that you want a top elected official before cabinet positions, but in a state of emergency/disarray the SoS, AG or SoD would seem better suited than the Speaker of the House and Senate pro tem.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 21, 2018 3:45 pm
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run2death wrote:
I've always thought the presidential line of succession was kinda weird.
I guess the idea is that you want a top elected official before cabinet positions, but in a state of emergency/disarray the SoS, AG or SoD would seem better suited than the Speaker of the House and Senate pro tem.
The Speaker makes a certain amount of sense. The president pro tem is a terrible idea. It's a completely meaningless position that is always held by one the two or three oldest people in the Senate. And no one think the Sec of HUD or Energy should be President. And if someone dropped a nuke on DC, they could all die.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 21, 2018 3:53 pm
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The Argonaut wrote:
run2death wrote:
I've always thought the presidential line of succession was kinda weird.
I guess the idea is that you want a top elected official before cabinet positions, but in a state of emergency/disarray the SoS, AG or SoD would seem better suited than the Speaker of the House and Senate pro tem.
The Speaker makes a certain amount of sense. The president pro tem is a terrible idea. It's a completely meaningless position that is always held by one the two or three oldest people in the Senate. And no one think the Sec of HUD or Energy should be President. And if someone dropped a nuke on DC, they could all die.
Cynically, those people are next in line because all succession after the VP was established by law in Congress; the Constitution only deals with the VP. If it ever came down to someone outside the VP, I think the minority party would almost certainly bring it to the courts to challenge it.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat April 21, 2018 5:31 pm
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Simple Torture wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:
run2death wrote:
I've always thought the presidential line of succession was kinda weird.
I guess the idea is that you want a top elected official before cabinet positions, but in a state of emergency/disarray the SoS, AG or SoD would seem better suited than the Speaker of the House and Senate pro tem.
The Speaker makes a certain amount of sense. The president pro tem is a terrible idea. It's a completely meaningless position that is always held by one the two or three oldest people in the Senate. And no one think the Sec of HUD or Energy should be President. And if someone dropped a nuke on DC, they could all die.
Cynically, those people are next in line because all succession after the VP was established by law in Congress; the Constitution only deals with the VP. If it ever came down to someone outside the VP, I think the minority party would almost certainly bring it to the courts to challenge it.
It just seems that stability and national defense would be the biggest concern if it went past the VP and having someone like the SoS next in line would make the most sense.
Throwing the nation further into turmoil by potentially having the opposition party assume the presidency is just dumb.
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