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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:28 pm 
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That too. Or someone leaked the names of the entire jury and they all have secret Swiss accounts now.


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It's hard to describe how this makes me feel.




But do either of these get us closer to details of collusion?


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Tue August 21, 2018 5:37 pm 
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As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.

Pure speculation, but perhaps because Cohen's is a State case, and Mueller's investigation is Federal, this means that any cooperation Cohen might offer Mueller will be taken into account at sentencing, but is not a clearly defined part of the deal as of yet


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I have watched a ton of Law & Order


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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As part of the plea deal under discussion, Cohen is not expected to cooperate with the government, one source said. However, by pleading guilty both Cohen and prosecutors would avoid the spectacle and uncertainty of a trial.

Aww, that's no fun.
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Aww, that's no fun.
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What I wouldn't give for a Holiday Inn Express and a L&O marathon on TBS for the next two days.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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I know this is completely irrational, but there's something about Cohen's hangdog expression coupled with his adult babyfat that makes me feel sort of bad for him.


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Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today


4pm you idiot


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Cohen's entering his plea, and we'll learn details of his agreement, at 2pm ET today


4pm you idiot

lol sorry 2pm MT


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Sounds like he’s pleading to campaign finance violations, presumably related to affair partner payments. It’ll be hard to sell the ”nothing to do with Trump” bunt that Republicans offered when the Manafort indictments happened.

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Manafort news Breaking on WGN radio: Jury has come to agreement on eight counts, can't agree on ten others

Edit: Verdict is guilty on 8, by the way


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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I've previously read that in this sort of split scenario, the judge will take into account the defendant's behavior on and around ALL counts when it comes to sentencing.

Add to that the second case next month (with 1000 pieces of evidence scheduled to be presented), and he's still completely screwed.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Those 8 counts carry 30 years each or something like that, seems like overkill to bother with anymore trials for him.


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Die in jail you piece of traitorous garbage.

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boom..counts 7 and 8 for cohen


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