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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Sun June 24, 2018 12:28 am 
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That won’t stay up long.


this just worked for me i see a bunch of latinos sitting in a chain link cage

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That won’t stay up long.


this just worked for me i see a bunch of latinos sitting in a chain link cage

Human Bass's basement has been discovered.

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She just posted this and it had to be pointed out to me why she did. She’s targeting that restaurant and all the local loons to go enact violence on it and it’s owner and staff.

This is absurd.

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Owner is well within their rights to ask her to leave.

It's a horrifying display of how appallingly people can treat each other when their obsession with politics becomes so consuming they no longer see "the other side" as human beings with thoughts and feelings, instead as mere physical manifestations of their beliefs.


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BurtReynolds wrote:
96583UP wrote:
wease wrote:
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That won’t stay up long.


this just worked for me i see a bunch of latinos sitting in a chain link cage

Human Bass's basement has been discovered.

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It's a horrifying display of how appallingly people can treat each other when their obsession with politics becomes so consuming they no longer see "the other side" as human beings with thoughts and feelings, instead as mere physical manifestations of their beliefs.

Hi,

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Infest.

There's no small amount of truth to this, and not just Democrats, but left-leaning parties generally in the UK, Australia, etc.

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I'm not being intentionally obtuse but I don't see the connection.


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Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but it looks to me like you went from agreeing with a presidential tweet which frames liberals as engaging in immigration purely on bad faith as a cynical vote-grabbing numbers game, to complaining about people allowing political disagreements to become a reductive force in how they see and treat their fellow humans, in like two and a half turns.

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Birds in Hell wrote:
I'm not being intentionally obtuse but I don't see the connection.


The connection is that you find "truth" in the asinine notion that immigrants desperately espcaping from un-liveable countries are "infesting" the United States, UK and Australia - that a large portion of them are dangerous criminals and MS-13 gang members, rapists, etc.... - and that liberals want these people to "infest" our countries because it would be a cheap vote grab.


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The connection is that you find "truth" in the asinine notion that immigrants desperately espcaping from un-liveable countries are "infesting" the United States, UK and Australia - that a large portion of them are dangerous criminals and MS-13 gang members, rapists, etc....

It would never have occurred to me that my previous post would be taken as an endorsement of that aspect of Trump's status.

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- and that liberals want these people to "infest" our countries because it would be a cheap vote grab.

This was more where I was coming from, and while I definitely wouldn't frame it in that way, I still think there is a cynical exploitation of the fact that immigrants often gravitate towards left-leaning political parties. That's the basic sentiment I was agreeing with.

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Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but it looks to me like you went from agreeing with a presidential tweet which frames liberals as engaging in immigration purely on bad faith as a cynical vote-grabbing numbers game, to complaining about people allowing political disagreements to become a reductive force in how they see and treat their fellow humans, in like two and a half turns.

I still don't really see the connection between the two. I guess I care a great deal more about how individual people treat other people within the community, and much less so about the impact of sweeping generalisations about groups who aren't part of the community, however unfair those generalisations may be.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Spenno the Nielsen thing the other day I think was a bit much. But this? No. She was asked politely to leave. Then used the WH press secretary twitter account rather than her own personal account to go after the restaurant. She can’t be that much of an idiot. What other purpose do you imagine she had for doing that? What will it actually achieve?


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But this? No. She was asked politely to leave.

It's a thoroughly appalling way to treat anyone, and I fear where that kind of attitude leads.


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dimejinky99 wrote:
She just posted this and it had to be pointed out to me why she did. She’s targeting that restaurant and all the local loons to go enact violence on it and it’s owner and staff.

Owner is well within their rights to ask her to leave. You can’t say I support a bakery refusing service to a gay l couple and then complain a restaurant wouldn’t serve me cos I’m racist


Be surprised if we don’t hear more about this restaurant in the coming days.


I would expect them to talk about it constantly, which makes a lot of sense. When a chief part of your appeal is feeling aggrieved all of the time, your job becomes a lot harder when the news is dominated by your practice of separating children from their parents.


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Birds in Hell wrote:
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But this? No. She was asked politely to leave.

It's a thoroughly appalling way to treat anyone, and I fear where that kind of attitude leads.



The same woman supported a bakery refusing service to a gay couple. But that’s ok?

Her father just tweeted this. These people are racist fuckin scumbags. And openly. They don’t deserve any respect at all.



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Has anyone raised the possibility that the border could become militarized? I don't remember that line of discussion if it's come up before.

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dimejinky99 wrote:
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But this? No. She was asked politely to leave.

It's a thoroughly appalling way to treat anyone, and I fear where that kind of attitude leads.



The same woman supported a bakery refusing service to a gay couple. But that’s ok?

Her father just tweeted this. These people are racist fuckin scumbags. And openly. They don’t deserve any respect at all.


Jesus Christ.

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Where’s his wife from, again?

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Has anyone raised the possibility that the border could become militarized? I don't remember that line of discussion if it's come up before.

If he stays in power long enough, I could see that happening

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Probably impossible to find out but you’d have to imagine a lot of people aren’t even trying to cross the border now.


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Except the conditions they are fleeing are even worse than what they face at the border, so it's a deterrent that doesn't actually work.


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