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Author:  Noangel [ Tue April 10, 2018 3:26 pm ]
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I live in a hunting community...bow hunting, deer, moose, elk, bear, lions....



and I can promise you there is absolutely no need for assault rifles. None.

Author:  elliseamos [ Wed April 11, 2018 12:09 am ]
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The Cohen charges of illegal campaign contributions make me wonder if the NRA could be in any trouble with their Russian donations.

Author:  B [ Wed April 11, 2018 12:36 am ]
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Threat on my kids' school, technically the high school next to his middle school, yesterday. Attendance was only 50% today even with police swarming the area all day.

No shooting.

Author:  Bi_3 [ Wed April 11, 2018 11:52 am ]
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B wrote:
Threat on my kids' school, technically the high school next to his middle school, yesterday. Attendance was only 50% today even with police swarming the area all day.

No shooting.



Terrifying. I'm betting this is going to become more and more frequent in the future.

Author:  wease [ Wed April 11, 2018 12:58 pm ]
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In the county I work, they’ve shut schools down and let them out early 3 times since the Florida shooting due to threats. I think one kid actually had a gun in one case.

Author:  Green Habit [ Thu April 12, 2018 12:25 am ]
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Author:  Norris [ Thu April 12, 2018 12:29 am ]
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mini bats can fuck you up, they swing awfully fast

Author:  Green Habit [ Thu April 12, 2018 4:23 pm ]
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Author:  Noangel [ Fri April 13, 2018 6:44 am ]
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yeah..more guns are not the solution...

Author:  Superblood Wolfmoon [ Sat April 14, 2018 5:26 pm ]
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Here's what I believe to be an example of what I was talking to a friend about last week: the gun owner who is just salivating at the chance to shoot someone. Black kid at the door asking for directions? Grab the shotgun and start shooting as he runs away!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/us/m ... tions.html

Author:  elliseamos [ Sun April 15, 2018 2:04 pm ]
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meatwad wrote:
Here's what I believe to be an example of what I was talking to a friend about last week: the gun owner who is just salivating at the chance to shoot someone. Black kid at the door asking for directions? Grab the shotgun and start shooting as he runs away!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/us/m ... tions.html

Self-defense is not as common as gun-owners and gun-defenders would lead us to believe:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/fire ... gun-use-2/

Author:  Bi_3 [ Sun April 15, 2018 11:14 pm ]
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elliseamos wrote:
meatwad wrote:
Here's what I believe to be an example of what I was talking to a friend about last week: the gun owner who is just salivating at the chance to shoot someone. Black kid at the door asking for directions? Grab the shotgun and start shooting as he runs away!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/us/m ... tions.html

Self-defense is not as common as gun-owners and gun-defenders would lead us to believe:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/fire ... gun-use-2/



What would be a good number for you? 100,000 times a year? 500,000?

Author:  elliseamos [ Sun April 15, 2018 11:42 pm ]
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It's not about what the number is, it's about the fact that it's nowhere near what is promoted by the pro-gun side of this conversation.

The individual (Hemenway) at the head of the link explains how the myth of the self-defending gun owner is just that, a myth.

Author:  Orpheus [ Sun April 15, 2018 11:58 pm ]
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I've said it before, but the main thing having a gun in your house does is massively increase the chances that someone in your household will be injured/killed by that gun.

Author:  elliseamos [ Mon April 16, 2018 12:59 am ]
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Orpheus wrote:
I've said it before, but the main thing having a gun in your house does is massively increase the chances that someone in your household will be injured/killed by that gun.

Yes, I think that's mentioned in the Harvard link I posted.

Author:  Green Habit [ Mon April 16, 2018 3:52 pm ]
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This is why I consistently believe that it is going to take a massive culture change in order to reduce gun ownership. There needs to be more persuasion toward the idea that even if you have the right to own one, it may not be wise to own one if your goal is ownership for self defense purposes.

Author:  elliseamos [ Tue April 17, 2018 11:09 am ]
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Green Habit wrote:
This is why I consistently believe that it is going to take a massive culture change in order to reduce gun ownership. There needs to be more persuasion toward the idea that even if you have the right to own one, it may not be wise to own one if your goal is ownership for self defense purposes.

Agreed.

Author:  Monkey_Driven [ Tue April 17, 2018 5:53 pm ]
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It will take generations for the culture to change, if ever, in rural areas. Gun culture is so engrained there.

Author:  simple schoolboy [ Wed April 18, 2018 5:56 am ]
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https://ghostgunner.net/
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https://twitter.com/Radomysisky?ref_src ... r%5Eauthor[/url]

I would say good luck in changing the culture , but its likely that social media and search companies will somehow come up with an algorithm that is 99% effective in blocking firearm related messages while allowing some number of child prostitution links to get through. (you know, priorities)

You can probably change the culture by censoring large swaths of content, at least that seems to be the current strategy.

Can you really call gun owners paranoid if this is your outspoken strategy, especially considering the financing aspect?

Author:  Jorge [ Wed April 18, 2018 1:36 pm ]
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Ah yes, gun control vs. child prostitution, a classic dichotomy

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