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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Wed March 17, 2021 8:24 pm
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Authorities said the suspect in the deadly rampage at three metro Atlanta spas targeted the businesses because he had “issues” with sexual addiction and had been planning to commit more shootings before he was captured.
The Cherokee County Sheriff said the suspect, Robert Aaron Long, 21, of Woodstock, claimed the shootings were not racially motivated. The sheriff described it as “targets of opportunity” and said Long told investigators he wanted to “eliminate the temptation.”
At least he was facing his sex addiction head-on.
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*I am aware that the overall study talks about the criminalization of victims, but the abstract and intro set that stage and that is what I am referring to here.
Aren't we kinda doing the same thing with young white males? Media conditions hatred towards them, calls them racists, misogynists, violent oppressors... and then we are shocked that they commit acts like this?
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*I am aware that the overall study talks about the criminalization of victims, but the abstract and intro set that stage and that is what I am referring to here.
Aren't we kinda doing the same thing with young white males? Media conditions hatred towards them, calls them racists, misogynists, violent oppressors... and then we are shocked that they commit acts like this?
I stopped reading that... I'm not feeling bad for this guy. He should have had better access to help than to believe shooting other people would solve his problems. This is not a WMA issue, this is society's fault.
*I am aware that the overall study talks about the criminalization of victims, but the abstract and intro set that stage and that is what I am referring to here.
Aren't we kinda doing the same thing with young white males? Media conditions hatred towards them, calls them racists, misogynists, violent oppressors... and then we are shocked that they commit acts like this?
I stopped reading that... I'm not feeling bad for this guy. He should have had better access to help than to believe shooting other people would solve his problems. This is not a WMA issue, this is society's fault.
Mostly agreed that we should not feel bad for him. What I was getting at wasnt this particular act, but the next (and the next and the next). Seems like if a valid pattern was developed to help one group it should be applied to another so.... What does society want? More killer WMAs to feed Twitter or fewer deaths or some acceptable in-between?
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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 3:13 pm
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14208
McParadigm wrote:
What the fuckkkkkkkkkk
Bi_3 wrote:
Mostly agreed that we should not feel bad for him.
I know nothing about him. Was he mentally ill? Abused as child? Upon occasion, there are reasons people do horrible things.
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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 4:19 pm
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Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
What the fuckkkkkkkkkk
Bi_3 wrote:
Mostly agreed that we should not feel bad for him.
I know nothing about him.
You know he murdered people.
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Was he mentally ill? Abused as child? Upon occasion, there are reasons people do horrible things.
You don't know those things about literally any bad actor we discuss in this forum, period. You don't know them about the cops who killed Breonna Taylor, or the guy who reached for Kyle Rittenhouse's gun, or any person you see smashing a window in a video filmed during a BLM protest. You don't know them about any given Capitol rioter, and you don't know them about a terrorist who hijacks a passenger plane.
We do know that he had been in rehab for sex addiction, which means he was exposed to mental health professionals. And we know that his weapons were purchased legally just prior to the shooting. And we know he had the presence of mind to surrender without incident when they found him. Oh, and he'd had a bad day.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 4:24 pm
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14208
McParadigm wrote:
You don't know those things about literally any bad actor we discuss in this forum, period. You don't know them about the cops who killed Breonna Taylor, or the guy who reached for Kyle Rittenhouse's gun, or any person you see smashing a window in a video filmed during a BLM protest. You don't know them about any given Capitol rioter, and you don't know them about a terrorist who hijacks a passenger plane.
Wait, are you furiously searching my post history for a gotcha so you can prove that I am giving a white person the benefit of doubt I dont give black/brown people?
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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 4:27 pm
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Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
You don't know those things about literally any bad actor we discuss in this forum, period. You don't know them about the cops who killed Breonna Taylor, or the guy who reached for Kyle Rittenhouse's gun, or any person you see smashing a window in a video filmed during a BLM protest. You don't know them about any given Capitol rioter, and you don't know them about a terrorist who hijacks a passenger plane.
Wait, are you furiously searching my post history for a gotcha so you can prove that I am giving a white person the benefit of doubt I dont give black/brown people?
Why would you assume that I'm searching your post history for topics? Have we ever had an in-depth discussion on 9/11 hijackers???
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 4:36 pm
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I did admittedly search deep enough into your post history to find this suggestion that when white people do racist things, maybe it's your fault for calling them racist.
Bi_3 wrote:
Aren't we kinda doing the same thing with young white males? Media conditions hatred towards them, calls them racists, misogynists, violent oppressors... and then we are shocked that they commit acts like this?
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 4:43 pm
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14208
McParadigm wrote:
I did admittedly search deep enough into your post history to find this suggestion that when white people do racist things, maybe it's your fault for calling them racist.
Bi_3 wrote:
Aren't we kinda doing the same thing with young white males? Media conditions hatred towards them, calls them racists, misogynists, violent oppressors... and then we are shocked that they commit acts like this?
But it was 11 posts ago, so.
LOL, sorry. I wont spoil your fun next time.
But yes, I do wonder if mass media ascribing certain behaviors to certain groups actually induces that group to behave in that way. That's kinda the whole basis of marketing, right?
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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 4:52 pm
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Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
I did admittedly search deep enough into your post history to find this suggestion that when white people do racist things, maybe it's your fault for calling them racist.
Bi_3 wrote:
Aren't we kinda doing the same thing with young white males? Media conditions hatred towards them, calls them racists, misogynists, violent oppressors... and then we are shocked that they commit acts like this?
But it was 11 posts ago, so.
LOL, sorry. I wont spoil your fun next time.
But yes, I do wonder if mass media ascribing certain behaviors to certain groups actually induces that group to behave in that way. That's kinda the whole basis of marketing, right?
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu March 18, 2021 5:08 pm
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Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am Posts: 21805
"What is life, really? Life is complicated. Confusing. But most of all, unfair. So let's own that. Let's say to people: look at this person who failed at life. Look at how they hurt others and were shunned for it. Look at how absolutely wrong they are. And look.....they're eating Life cereal. (pauses) Say that enough, and I promise you: people will want that journey for themselves. They'll want to fail at life. They'll want to hurt others. And guess which cereal they will choose along the way?"
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