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Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Mon December 21, 2020 7:56 am
Misplaced My Sponge
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BurtReynolds wrote:
What's the story with 5.7 ammo?
5.7 was developed for pistol/ personal defense weapon cartridge by FN to penetrate kevlar body armor.
Pistol ammo intended to defeat body armor is prohibited. The use case projectile was never released on the US civilian market.
The 5.7 you can buy is polymer tipped whatever. Its paying for something like 5.56 hunting ammo at lower velocity/ bullet weight, but for a weird platform you overpaid for.
Alternatively, its overpaying for a Keltech equivilent in .22 magnum.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Tue December 22, 2020 5:20 am
Misplaced My Sponge
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The ATF has unofficially declared a Jihad on the following:
1) AR pistols with 'braces'. They have promised forthcoming binding new interpretations for what makes a pistol brace kosher or not. They will not provide objective standards to inform owners whether they have a legit AR pistol or an SBR. They expect you to submit photos and other info to them, and they'll let you know. They claim to wave the $200 tax stamp fee for registration if you jump through their hoops.
2) 80% lowers - so far limited to Polymer80, but purchasers of their kits have been contacted. They seem to want to make home manufacture of firearms more difficult. This is semi retarded as parts kits are the more significant issue with home gunsmithing. As long as parts kits are uncontrolled, 3D printed receivers (and therefore completed guns) are getting to be fairly trivial.
3) 'Solvent Traps' - the suppressor equivalent of 80% lowers. The main benefit of these rather than finished suppressors is the ATF approval process is faster than the normal form 4, which is something like 6 months. I suppose ATFs concern is that someone, somewhere bought one of these and drilled it out without submitting a form 1.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Tue December 22, 2020 5:31 am
Gone
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I am so thankful they are protecting our children by cracking down on that crap. This is just common sense infringement. A gentleman doesn’t need any of that equipment for hunting. It’s gun fetishist stuff and it’s GROSS.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Tue December 22, 2020 5:46 am
Misplaced My Sponge
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macphisto wrote:
I am so thankful they are protecting our children by cracking down on that crap. This is just common sense infringement. A gentleman doesn’t need any of that equipment for hunting. It’s gun fetishist stuff and it’s GROSS.
The last time they wanted to prove their importance, a lot of innocents ended up dead. Anytime the ATF gets their panties in a knot is reason for concern.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sun December 27, 2020 4:45 am
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McParadigm wrote:
am i the only one who cares about the fucking rules
Thank you for your contribution. I do not trust the media to properly distinguish between an unfortunate escalation of the enforcement of foul rules and a random shooting.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sun December 27, 2020 5:05 am
The Master
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm Posts: 42195
simple schoolboy wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
am i the only one who cares about the fucking rules
Thank you for your contribution. I do not trust the media to properly distinguish between an unfortunate escalation of the enforcement of foul rules and a random shooting.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sun December 27, 2020 5:46 am
Misplaced My Sponge
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
am i the only one who cares about the fucking rules
Thank you for your contribution. I do not trust the media to properly distinguish between an unfortunate escalation of the enforcement of foul rules and a random shooting.
obviously you're not a golfer
Bringing it back to the topic at hand, the polymer bowling pins work as 'self healing' targets. The material reforms to some degree after the bullet's passage, resulting in a very small (or negligible) permanent cavity. These targets can take far more impacts than wood or paper targets that have permanent bullet cavities at least as big as the bullet diameter.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sun December 27, 2020 7:24 am
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McParadigm wrote:
yeah super interesting
Its not for everyone, but if you are curious about such physical properties of materials, it is interesting.
To your original post, Michael Moore convinced me that there would not be enough people in a bowling alley to pull off a mass shooting. Did he oversell Bowling Alone?
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 7:50 am
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Kyle Rittenhouse has had an additional charge of violating curfew levied against him. I wonder how many others were charged with that offense.
The prosecutor has already been changed, right? Going for a plea rather than dropping all charges (except maybe the minor in posession, not sure about that one)?
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Thu December 31, 2020 8:36 am
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BurtReynolds wrote:
What's the story with 5.7 ammo?
Keltech also has an abomination of a pistol that uses the FN P90 50 rd magazine (or perhaps a clone). Now that 9mm and 5.7 have achieved near parity in price, I guess the idea is that you can justify these types of purchases.
Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Sat January 16, 2021 12:05 am
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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:41 am Posts: 8746 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
The National Rifle Association has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The gun rights advocacy group says it will leave a ‘corrupt political and regulatory environment’ in New York state and instead restructure as a nonprofit in Texas.
Leadership within the pro-Second Amendment group has been under fire for misusing millions of dollars in funds. In August 2020, NY Attorney General Letitia James announced that she was suing to dissolve the NRA for ‘years of self-dealing and illegal conduct.’ The NRA responded by suing James back, claiming that she violated its First Amendment rights. ‘The NRA's claimed financial status has finally met its moral status: bankrupt,’ AG James said in a statement after the bankruptcy announcement. ‘While we review this filing, we will not allow the NRA to use this or any other tactic to evade accountability and my office’s oversight.’
According to OpenSecrets, the NRA spent more than $32.3 million on political contributions, lobbying efforts, and other outside spending during the 2020 election cycle
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