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 Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
PostPosted: Tue April 23, 2013 2:24 pm 
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elliseamos wrote:
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simple schoolboy wrote:
and at least those folks have probably funded Mexican cartels.

pfft, only if they're buying shitty mexican brick weed
right. not to mention one's carrying a small quantity of mary jane will never result in someone dying.

as for your asking if i know all of new york's laws, i don't need to since i have no intention of carrying a gun across state lines.



Carrying an unloaded locked up gun with no ammunition has never come close to killing anyone either.


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PostPosted: Tue April 23, 2013 4:36 pm 
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The bottom line for me is that I have a right to self defense. My ninja training skills just won't cut it if I'm being threatened with say... a crossbow. If I chose to own one though a gun would work great.

I like having that option. Bad guys are gonna find a way to do crazy shit one way or the other. (Just look at the Norwegian who shot 85 people at that camp a few years ago). I think it is a fantasy to believe that banning guns will solve the problem. It's not going to stop the batshit insane nor the criminal minded.

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Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
and at least those folks have probably funded Mexican cartels.

pfft, only if they're buying shitty mexican brick weed
right. not to mention one's carrying a small quantity of mary jane will never result in someone dying.

as for your asking if i know all of new york's laws, i don't need to since i have no intention of carrying a gun across state lines.



Carrying an unloaded locked up gun with no ammunition has never come close to killing anyone either.

ray liotta disagrees.

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do that w/ shitty cartel weed and i'll sing a different tune.


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TheDapperGent wrote:
The bottom line for me is that I have a right to self defense. My ninja training skills just won't cut it if I'm being threatened with say... a crossbow. If I chose to own one though a gun would work great.

I like having that option. Bad guys are gonna find a way to do crazy shit one way or the other. (Just look at the Norwegian who shot 85 people at that camp a few years ago). I think it is a fantasy to believe that banning guns will solve the problem. It's not going to stop the batshit insane nor the criminal minded.
i'll post it again as i've posted before.

the title of this thread not withstanding, nobody is talking about taking away all guns.

(1) i'm talking about is making it harder to obtain them and carry around with you.
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(2) it should require greater responsibility to own one and keep it in your house.

short of those two things, you're a criminal and should be treated as such, just like drunk driving. of course people still do it, but you're committing a crime as soon as you do it (and you're very aware of it).


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elliseamos wrote:
TheDapperGent wrote:
The bottom line for me is that I have a right to self defense. My ninja training skills just won't cut it if I'm being threatened with say... a crossbow. If I chose to own one though a gun would work great.

I like having that option. Bad guys are gonna find a way to do crazy shit one way or the other. (Just look at the Norwegian who shot 85 people at that camp a few years ago). I think it is a fantasy to believe that banning guns will solve the problem. It's not going to stop the batshit insane nor the criminal minded.
i'll post it again as i've posted before.

the title of this thread not withstanding, nobody is talking about taking away all guns.

(1) i'm talking about is making it harder to obtain them and carry around with you.
and
(2) it should require greater responsibility to own one and keep it in your house.

short of those two things, you're a criminal and should be treated as such, just like drunk driving. of course people still do it, but you're committing a crime as soon as you do it (and you're very aware of it).


I was addressing the title of the thread more than any one individual posting here. I agree with more stringent background checks.

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 Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
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Birds in Hell wrote:
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...it's important to note that the starting point for the Aussie law and any future US laws are different.

From snopes.com

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Australian citizens do not (and never did) have a constitutional right to own firearms; even before the 1997 buyback program, handgun ownership in Australia was restricted to certain groups, such as those needing weapons for occupational reasons, members of approved sporting clubs, hunters, and collectors.

Agreed, these are two key reasons why I think the comparison fails: Australia lacks the legal and historical ties to gun ownership that exist in the United States and we always had far, far fewer guns in circulation (even illegally) before the buyback. Gun regulation has unarguably resulted in a marked reduction in mass shootings in Australia, but I think it's folly to think instituting similar schemes in other jurisdictions would result in the same outcome. I presume Australia's geographic isolation plays a role in why gun regulation has been so effective here too.


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elliseamos wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
and at least those folks have probably funded Mexican cartels.

pfft, only if they're buying shitty mexican brick weed
right. not to mention one's carrying a small quantity of mary jane will never result in someone dying.

as for your asking if i know all of new york's laws, i don't need to since i have no intention of carrying a gun across state lines.



Carrying an unloaded locked up gun with no ammunition has never come close to killing anyone either.

ray liotta disagrees.

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do that w/ shitty cartel weed and i'll sing a different tune.


umm, fake blood alert.


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red calzolaio wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
and at least those folks have probably funded Mexican cartels.

pfft, only if they're buying shitty mexican brick weed
right. not to mention one's carrying a small quantity of mary jane will never result in someone dying.

as for your asking if i know all of new york's laws, i don't need to since i have no intention of carrying a gun across state lines.



Carrying an unloaded locked up gun with no ammunition has never come close to killing anyone either.

ray liotta disagrees.

spoilered due to graphic blood:
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do that w/ shitty cartel weed and i'll sing a different tune.


umm, fake blood alert.
sorry i couldn't produce a gif of an actual occurrence of someone nearly pistol whipping someone else to death. not to mention, if electro is going to be silly, then i'm going to bring in ray liotta.


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elliseamos wrote:
red calzolaio wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
and at least those folks have probably funded Mexican cartels.

pfft, only if they're buying shitty mexican brick weed
right. not to mention one's carrying a small quantity of mary jane will never result in someone dying.

as for your asking if i know all of new york's laws, i don't need to since i have no intention of carrying a gun across state lines.



Carrying an unloaded locked up gun with no ammunition has never come close to killing anyone either.

ray liotta disagrees.

spoilered due to graphic blood:
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do that w/ shitty cartel weed and i'll sing a different tune.


umm, fake blood alert.
sorry i couldn't produce a gif of an actual occurrence of someone nearly pistol whipping someone else to death. not to mention, if electro is going to be silly, then i'm going to bring in ray liotta.



Go home and get your fucking shinebox!! :D


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 Post subject: Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
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Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
red calzolaio wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
and at least those folks have probably funded Mexican cartels.

pfft, only if they're buying shitty mexican brick weed
right. not to mention one's carrying a small quantity of mary jane will never result in someone dying.

as for your asking if i know all of new york's laws, i don't need to since i have no intention of carrying a gun across state lines.



Carrying an unloaded locked up gun with no ammunition has never come close to killing anyone either.

ray liotta disagrees.

spoilered due to graphic blood:
Spoiler: show
Image


do that w/ shitty cartel weed and i'll sing a different tune.


umm, fake blood alert.
sorry i couldn't produce a gif of an actual occurrence of someone nearly pistol whipping someone else to death. not to mention, if electro is going to be silly, then i'm going to bring in ray liotta.



Go home and get your fucking shinebox!! :D
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Is that Zardoz?

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kahli sana wrote:
Is that Zardoz?
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For those disappointed about the recent Senate vote, you should take some solace in that the mere proposal has been effective. For the past 4-ish months ammunition has been hard to find, and when it can be found it is quite expensive. For instance, the only .45 ACP (no 9mm to speak of) ammunition available on my go to site are some mid-grade hollowpoints for about $1.50 per round. It would seem that shooting sprees are a domain restricted to the well off these days, which if I'm not mistaken are not a demographic known for losing it and engaging in wanton destruction.


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Adam Lanza came from a fairly well off family with a gun nut mom.


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Adam Lanza came from a fairly well off family with a gun nut mom.

and the columbine shooters had plenty of money.

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Crazy white men have been proven more dangerous than guns


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Must've had quite the allowance to qualify as well off.


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yea.

cuz 5 yr olds should have anything closely resembling a gun.


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red calzolaio wrote:
yea.

cuz 5 yr olds should have anything closely resembling a gun.

but it's just a toy?! accidents will happen... kids die from nerf guns all the time.


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elliseamos wrote:
red calzolaio wrote:
yea.

cuz 5 yr olds should have anything closely resembling a gun.

but it's just a toy?! accidents will happen... kids die from nerf guns all the time.


this is all very true.


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