The board's server will undergo upgrade maintenance tonight, Nov 5, 2014, beginning approximately around 10 PM ET. Prepare for some possible down time during this process.
FAQ    Search

Board index » Word on the Street » News & Debate




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 137 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Mon February 25, 2013 11:31 pm 
Offline
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am
Posts: 1357
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
we might as well be an occupied country.

Have you ever been to an 'occupied' country? If we were an occupied country, we would be praying for the good old days of 'stop and frisk'.


I certainly hope our troops are better shots than the LAPD.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Tue February 26, 2013 8:16 am 
Offline
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am
Posts: 1357
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
we might as well be an occupied country.

Have you ever been to an 'occupied' country? If we were an occupied country, we would be praying for the good old days of 'stop and frisk'.


Also, we treat brown people differently than white folk. Think occupied Vichy France more than Iraq or Afghanistan. Heck, the police in France even helped to turn in Jews. I can't imagine the average gentile Parisan in 1940-44 had a worse time than the average white person in New York as far as interactions with the local police go. Its a matter of degrees, not a matter of underlying philosophy.

I get it, you love the police/war state. You served your country honorably. Your actions are not one and the same as of the state. We justified a war with King George under conditions less contentious than this. I suppose terrorist suspects get a jury trial, but probably only 3 years after they are held, if they are lucky.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 12:20 am 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
Wait what? I don't love a police state, and I certainly don't live in one. If I did, I wouldn't be able to do half the shit I do in my life. And how presumptuous/douchey of you to assume that because I served my country that I would enjoy living in a military state.

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 12:24 am 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
Also, I wasn't referring to Iraq our Afghanistan. I saw first hand what Slobodan Milosivec did in Serbia. I'm not saying that makes my opinion any better than anyone else, but it does give me perspective on how well we have it, no matter what you think of our law enforcement.

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Last edited by E.H. Ruddock on Wed February 27, 2013 12:35 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 12:31 am 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
I really hate it when people make the generalization that because I served in the military I have uber conservative views on the world.

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 12:31 am 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
That is all.

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 12:43 am 
Offline
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am
Posts: 1357
To be fair, most people love the militarization of the police. Just like most people like drones.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 4:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 16, 2013 10:46 pm
Posts: 1600
Location: Wrigleyville
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I really hate it when people make the generalization that because I served in the military I have uber conservative views on the world.


Littlewing wannabe.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 4:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 16, 2013 10:46 pm
Posts: 1600
Location: Wrigleyville
simple schoolboy wrote:
To be fair, most people love the militarization of the police. Just like most people like drones.


Absolutely. I love it when police beat the shit out of everyone, esp women, the elderly and homeless children.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 5:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
To be fair, most people love the militarization of the police. Just like most people like drones.


Absolutely. I love it when police beat the shit out of everyone, esp women, the elderly and homeless children.

Yes because this is a common occurrence that most people see on a daily basis. As a matter of fact, I was walking down the street at lunch yesterday and saw a cop beat an elderly homeless woman with a child! Just a normal Tuesday for most of us living here in a police state, I suppose.

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 5:34 pm 
Offline
Fake NYC Setlist Relayer
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:11 pm
Posts: 7703
As a former cops reporter in 2 different cities, I must say the thought of local law-enforcement agencies with drones scares the living shit out of me.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 5:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 16, 2013 10:46 pm
Posts: 1600
Location: Wrigleyville
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
To be fair, most people love the militarization of the police. Just like most people like drones.


Absolutely. I love it when police beat the shit out of everyone, esp women, the elderly and homeless children.

Yes because this is a common occurrence that most people see on a daily basis. As a matter of fact, I was walking down the street at lunch yesterday and saw a cop beat an elderly homeless woman with a child! Just a normal Tuesday for most of us living here in a police state, I suppose.


God Bless the US!


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 6:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
turned2black wrote:
As a former cops reporter in 2 different cities, I must say the thought of local law-enforcement agencies with drones scares the living shit out of me.

How is this worse than the LAPD flying around with armed officers above the city? I'm sure the drone they use is for surveillance only and is not armed. So how is it different than the LAPD helicopters flying overhead?

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 6:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar
"You kids quit having fun with the word filter!"
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm
Posts: 29435
Location: gone fishin'
HEY RUDDO HERE'S A T-SHIRT FOR YOU
Image

_________________
oh no!


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 6:45 pm 
Offline
Fake NYC Setlist Relayer
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:11 pm
Posts: 7703
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
turned2black wrote:
As a former cops reporter in 2 different cities, I must say the thought of local law-enforcement agencies with drones scares the living shit out of me.

How is this worse than the LAPD flying around with armed officers above the city? I'm sure the drone they use is for surveillance only and is not armed. So how is it different than the LAPD helicopters flying overhead?

Drones are basically remote death machines with virtually no rules or guidelines on where, when and why they can be used. Even if they are not currently armed, the possibilities for abuse are endless.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 6:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
theplatypus wrote:
HEY RUDDO HERE'S A T-SHIRT FOR YOU
Image

I don't like the Village People, Horhay the Magnificent.

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 6:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Worst Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm
Posts: 47976
turned2black wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
turned2black wrote:
As a former cops reporter in 2 different cities, I must say the thought of local law-enforcement agencies with drones scares the living shit out of me.

How is this worse than the LAPD flying around with armed officers above the city? I'm sure the drone they use is for surveillance only and is not armed. So how is it different than the LAPD helicopters flying overhead?

Drones are basically remote death machines with virtually no rules or guidelines on where, when and why they can be used. Even if they are not currently armed, the possibilities for abuse are endless.

So if your kid was lost in the woods or a serial killer was loose in your neighborhood, and your city's PD had a surveillance-only drone with infrared tech, you would be agains them using it? I mean, there is possibility for abuse in all kinds of law enforcement arenas, so I'm not sure what I'm even arguing here.

_________________
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 6:55 pm 
Offline
Fake NYC Setlist Relayer
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:11 pm
Posts: 7703
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
turned2black wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
turned2black wrote:
As a former cops reporter in 2 different cities, I must say the thought of local law-enforcement agencies with drones scares the living shit out of me.

How is this worse than the LAPD flying around with armed officers above the city? I'm sure the drone they use is for surveillance only and is not armed. So how is it different than the LAPD helicopters flying overhead?

Drones are basically remote death machines with virtually no rules or guidelines on where, when and why they can be used. Even if they are not currently armed, the possibilities for abuse are endless.

So if your kid was lost in the woods or a serial killer was loose in your neighborhood, and your city's PD had a surveillance-only drone with infrared tech, you would be agains them using it? I mean, there is possibility for abuse in all kinds of law enforcement arenas, so I'm not sure what I'm even arguing here.

Which kid? J/K.
Yes, I would be against it. I think drone surveillance of any kind is a horrible idea.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Wed February 27, 2013 8:35 pm 
Offline
Future Drummer
 Profile

Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 6:49 pm
Posts: 2702
turned2black wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
turned2black wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
turned2black wrote:
As a former cops reporter in 2 different cities, I must say the thought of local law-enforcement agencies with drones scares the living shit out of me.

How is this worse than the LAPD flying around with armed officers above the city? I'm sure the drone they use is for surveillance only and is not armed. So how is it different than the LAPD helicopters flying overhead?

Drones are basically remote death machines with virtually no rules or guidelines on where, when and why they can be used. Even if they are not currently armed, the possibilities for abuse are endless.

So if your kid was lost in the woods or a serial killer was loose in your neighborhood, and your city's PD had a surveillance-only drone with infrared tech, you would be agains them using it? I mean, there is possibility for abuse in all kinds of law enforcement arenas, so I'm not sure what I'm even arguing here.

Which kid? J/K.
Yes, I would be against it. I think drone surveillance of any kind is a horrible idea.



Drone surveillance or any kind of surveillance? In other words, is your problem more with the fact that there are no real legal curtailments of drone use yet, or are you more distrusting of any government spying in general?


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Back by unpopular demand... US drone program
PostPosted: Thu February 28, 2013 9:06 am 
Offline
A Return To Form
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 10:19 pm
Posts: 187
Hey here's Robert Gibbs admitting that lying about the drone program was official policy.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... rones.html


"transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency" - Barack Obama


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 137 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

Board index » Word on the Street » News & Debate


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
It is currently Wed April 25, 2018 6:12 pm