It was definitely an advisory vote, and not strictly binding in and of itself.
However, refusing to implement the result would represent a catastrophic break of trust with the electorate in the circumstances.
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| Author: | Birds in Hell [ Wed July 11, 2018 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
It was definitely an advisory vote, and not strictly binding in and of itself. However, refusing to implement the result would represent a catastrophic break of trust with the electorate in the circumstances.
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Wed July 11, 2018 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
I think if you went and found the latest polling you’ll find trust is all but nonexistent for them now anyways and a huge amount that voted to leave would change their vote if it was held again tomorrow. Don’t know where I saw these but it was one of the big English papers. Times or guardian |
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| Author: | McParadigm [ Wed July 11, 2018 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
dimejinky99 wrote: I think if you went and found the latest polling you’ll find trust is all but nonexistent for them now anyways and a huge amount that voted to leave would change their vote if it was held again tomorrow. Don’t know where I saw these but it was one of the big English papers. Times or guardian It remained in favor of leaving until around October of last year, and then slowly shifted. It wasn’t until the last month or so that opposition to Brexit became a consistent, demonstrated majority....and even then, not by a huge margin. More important is the intensity gap, with Brexit supporters mostly tepid and opposers strongly opposed. The trend hasn’t abated, so we could eventually reach a point where a public referendum that is not supported by the public is being enacted. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Wed July 11, 2018 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
I wouldn’t say tepid at all. Those I know In the uk that voted for leave have been growing angrier over the past year. They feel lied to and mislead and with the constant resignantions of ministers and those that pushed for it its getting louder. They were sold a bunch of bullshit and now they don’t want it. Tough shit In a way but the never ending shit show it’s become will see nobody happy if it ever does come to a conclusion. |
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| Author: | simple schoolboy [ Thu July 12, 2018 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
McParadigm wrote: dimejinky99 wrote: I think if you went and found the latest polling you’ll find trust is all but nonexistent for them now anyways and a huge amount that voted to leave would change their vote if it was held again tomorrow. Don’t know where I saw these but it was one of the big English papers. Times or guardian It remained in favor of leaving until around October of last year, and then slowly shifted. It wasn’t until the last month or so that opposition to Brexit became a consistent, demonstrated majority....and even then, not by a huge margin. More important is the intensity gap, with Brexit supporters mostly tepid and opposers strongly opposed. The trend hasn’t abated, so we could eventually reach a point where a public referendum that is not supported by the public is being enacted. The EU is now talking about dealing with migrants, so maybe this didn't happen in a vacuum? If member states talked about how to restrict migrants to asylum in the country of entry back when Brexit was voted on, would it have passed? Schengen open borders was only ever intended for EU citizens, and its a shame it has taken this long for Germany et al to figure that out. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Thu July 12, 2018 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
wow. There’s tone deafness then there’s this. Farrage is a cunt. Glad they did this |
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| Author: | wease [ Thu July 12, 2018 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
Britain needs to just have Trump negotiate a deal while he’s there. He’s a goddamn deal maker. He’s transformed it into and art form. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Thu July 12, 2018 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
Did you see his completely nonsensical surprise press conference this morning? He doesn’t know what brexit is. He thinks it’s somethibg to do with the electoral college. And he has beautiful properties in Scotland and Ireland. Which isn’t the uk. The man is either truly an idiot or playing an Oscar worthy role as one |
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| Author: | McParadigm [ Thu July 12, 2018 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
You didn’t interpret a deep tissue understanding of the entire topic from his brilliant yet concise explanation “Brexit is Brexit?” |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Thu July 12, 2018 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
McParadigm wrote: You didn’t interpret a deep tissue understanding of the entire topic from his brilliant yet concise explanation “Brexit is Brexit?” No. I’m pretty sure he’s heartbroken about it. As he said. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Thu July 12, 2018 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
Actually there’s a telling moment I cannot that monlogue. Where he says I guess the people voted for it so it should happen / but I guess it’s going to go another way Pp but I thought that told it’s own tale. |
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| Author: | McParadigm [ Thu July 12, 2018 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
dimejinky99 wrote: McParadigm wrote: You didn’t interpret a deep tissue understanding of the entire topic from his brilliant yet concise explanation “Brexit is Brexit?” No. I’m pretty sure he’s heartbroken about it. As he said. “Brexit is tough. In fact I understand John Kelly was disappointed by Brexit at the NATO. So sad. So sad. Not enough scones.” |
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| Author: | McParadigm [ Mon July 30, 2018 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
Quote: The public by 50% to 40% support a referendum asking the public to choose between leaving the EU with the deal suggested by the government, leaving the EU without a deal, and not leaving the EU - 10% answered don't know This would be a wild vote. Preference polling has shown that when those three choices are offered together, ‘remain’ is the front runner by, like, a lot: Quote: Remain - 48%
No Deal - 27% Govt deal - 13% |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Mon July 30, 2018 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
The UK is now stockpiling food and medicines in the event of a no deal. Yeah brexit was a wonderful idea. It’ll all be fine. |
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| Author: | simple schoolboy [ Tue July 31, 2018 6:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
dimejinky99 wrote: The UK is now stockpiling food and medicines in the event of a no deal. Yeah brexit was a wonderful idea. It’ll all be fine. Is this about the false claim that the UK has no insulin production? |
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| Author: | 96583UP [ Wed August 01, 2018 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
there is a chance there could be another referendum and they stay in |
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| Author: | simple schoolboy [ Wed August 01, 2018 5:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
96583UP wrote: there is a chance there could be another referendum and they stay in Well, if the EU recognizes that open borders only was supposed to apply to EU citizens, then I'm pretty sure most would be okay with that. Also, maybe knock it off with the cinnamon bun regulations. Unless your end goal is Franco-German dominance, why make the EU anything more than NAFTA-esque free trade + open borders? |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Wed August 01, 2018 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
This is just it. Colonialism and a shitty education system. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Fri September 21, 2018 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
Looks like Theresa May might be about to resign. |
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| Author: | McParadigm [ Fri September 21, 2018 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Brexit |
Sure does |
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